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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #790926
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The encouragement of plea deals can't be understated.

Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #790927
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Was Farby Serpico answering to the Chin's orders in your opinion or was he a power on his own? I mean, for example Vic Amuso was official boss until recently, but people say it was in name only since a long time. What about the Chin?


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #790928
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Chin was THE boss until the end.

Everyone answered to him. Everyone.


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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #790929
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Chin's son got busted delivering orders and messages to the family from prison. Sonny's right, Chin was on top until the day he drew his last breath.

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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: Snakes] #790930
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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: abc123] #790932
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Originally Posted By: abc123


The Genovese could be smaller in number, and that is why they do so good at keeping low, i know people on here say they are same in man power as the gambino and are bigger in importance.

Or the Genovese could have alot criminals who are business men and are in no way violent so they are not in the news or doing crimes that other families get heat from doing.

Genovese, Gigante got some Lucchese Family members to get people to bomb attack Gambino Family one time, i think this shows his own Family members are business men, and any hits etc are done by people outside the Genovese Family.

Genovese Family could be all old men who do not let anyone know who they are and membership are not known to each other on the ground.


Well it's just not a matter of forum posters saying they match the Gambinos in size. The FBI has consistently had the family as being the largest (rivaled in size only by the Gambinos) for at least 20 years now. Most of the latest figures put the family at approximately 200 members.


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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: Yankees1951] #790949
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Originally Posted By: Yankees1951
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Also there doesn't seem to be any power hungry guys towards the top. The top spot has been vacant for 9 years, and not even the acting bosses or ruling panel members have tried to take over (Fiurama being the exception, but he tried to do it peacefully). If there ever is an official boss, there probably has to be consensus amongst the rest of the family (and not the John Gotti kind kind of consensus wink ).


Ted you and PB think alike wink

I'll take that as a compliment.


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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: IvyLeague] #790951
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: abc123


The Genovese could be smaller in number, and that is why they do so good at keeping low, i know people on here say they are same in man power as the gambino and are bigger in importance.

Or the Genovese could have alot criminals who are business men and are in no way violent so they are not in the news or doing crimes that other families get heat from doing.

Genovese, Gigante got some Lucchese Family members to get people to bomb attack Gambino Family one time, i think this shows his own Family members are business men, and any hits etc are done by people outside the Genovese Family.

Genovese Family could be all old men who do not let anyone know who they are and membership are not known to each other on the ground.


Well it's just not a matter of forum posters saying they match the Gambinos in size. The FBI has consistently had the family as being the largest (rivaled in size only by the Gambinos) for at least 20 years now. Most of the latest figures put the family at approximately 200 members.




the same fbi that said the outfit only had 2 crews

with the alleged defunct crew doing violent shit

Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: cookcounty] #790985
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: abc123


The Genovese could be smaller in number, and that is why they do so good at keeping low, i know people on here say they are same in man power as the gambino and are bigger in importance.

Or the Genovese could have alot criminals who are business men and are in no way violent so they are not in the news or doing crimes that other families get heat from doing.

Genovese, Gigante got some Lucchese Family members to get people to bomb attack Gambino Family one time, i think this shows his own Family members are business men, and any hits etc are done by people outside the Genovese Family.

Genovese Family could be all old men who do not let anyone know who they are and membership are not known to each other on the ground.


Well it's just not a matter of forum posters saying they match the Gambinos in size. The FBI has consistently had the family as being the largest (rivaled in size only by the Gambinos) for at least 20 years now. Most of the latest figures put the family at approximately 200 members.




the same fbi that said the outfit only had 2 crews

with the alleged defunct crew doing violent shit


They hate you because of the colour of your skin yet you still defend them lol

Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: TommyGambino] #790987
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: abc123


The Genovese could be smaller in number, and that is why they do so good at keeping low, i know people on here say they are same in man power as the gambino and are bigger in importance.

Or the Genovese could have alot criminals who are business men and are in no way violent so they are not in the news or doing crimes that other families get heat from doing.

Genovese, Gigante got some Lucchese Family members to get people to bomb attack Gambino Family one time, i think this shows his own Family members are business men, and any hits etc are done by people outside the Genovese Family.

Genovese Family could be all old men who do not let anyone know who they are and membership are not known to each other on the ground.


Well it's just not a matter of forum posters saying they match the Gambinos in size. The FBI has consistently had the family as being the largest (rivaled in size only by the Gambinos) for at least 20 years now. Most of the latest figures put the family at approximately 200 members.




the same fbi that said the outfit only had 2 crews

with the alleged defunct crew doing violent shit


They hate you because of the colour of your skin yet you still defend them lol



more like they ran from their neighborhoods when a black doctor moved on the block

Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #791055
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Some people talk like the mob is the KKK. They aren't exactly progressive with race relations, but they're not burning crosses either. They work with black people and they wouldn't leave a restaurant if a black couple walked in, but they usually want a certain degree of separation. But remember that they make their living on the streets with a bunch of criminals. They are usually brushing up against the thugs, addicts, and gangs. It's all a matter of perspective. It's a bit much to assume they all hate you because of your skin color. Just something to consider ya know..

Edit-- I have been informed of some pretty awful shit, but I guess I just knew of people who weren't quite so hostile.

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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #791101
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Thanks Pizzaboy your always informative especially when it comes from the westside

Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: cookcounty] #791179
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
the same fbi that said the outfit only had 2 crews

with the alleged defunct crew doing violent shit


You again?

The FBI said 2 or 3 crews but they never specified which ones or made any comment about Grand Avenue.


Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #791181
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I bet cookcounty is white and he's just working everybody on the board. That would be pretty funny.


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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: Snakes] #791185
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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #791218
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u don't remember issuing your own threat assessment of the crews?

or which crews u thought were defunct or merged and blah, blah, blah?

Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: jace] #791650
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Originally Posted By: jace
Originally Posted By: Garbageman
Every time I hear the name, Genovese, the first place comes to mind is the Bronx. There's something in that Bronx water. Makes em loyal sonsabitches.
I'd say the worst water in all of NYC has to be in Staten Island, lotsa rats pissin in that reservoir.



I think they have traditionally been based in the Little Italy area and the Luccesse's are form the Bronx.


The Genovese were geographically widespread. They had (until recently) a crews in Springfield, Mass and a made member in New Bedford, Mass. They had crews in Florida (like every family). They have the Tough Tony crew in Queens and a bunch in Brooklyn, including what's left of the Gallo gang (not much) in Red Hook.

Then there's Jersey, where I am guessing half of the Genovese are based now. Plus the Bronx and northern suburbs, where the 116th street crew now is based. Maybe a handful left of the Grennwich Village crew too.

Conversely, the Colombos are in Gravesend, Brooklyn and Staten Island...just a few crews. That's it.

Also,the Genovese guys almost always plea out. The last Genovese guy who decided not to plea out a case was Larry Ricci. So they stuffed him in the trunk of a car.

Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #791664
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Great thread. Really interesting information.

Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: IvyLeague] #791677
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: abc123


The Genovese could be smaller in number, and that is why they do so good at keeping low, i know people on here say they are same in man power as the gambino and are bigger in importance.

Or the Genovese could have alot criminals who are business men and are in no way violent so they are not in the news or doing crimes that other families get heat from doing.

Genovese, Gigante got some Lucchese Family members to get people to bomb attack Gambino Family one time, i think this shows his own Family members are business men, and any hits etc are done by people outside the Genovese Family.

Genovese Family could be all old men who do not let anyone know who they are and membership are not known to each other on the ground.


Well it's just not a matter of forum posters saying they match the Gambinos in size. The FBI has consistently had the family as being the largest (rivaled in size only by the Gambinos) for at least 20 years now. Most of the latest figures put the family at approximately 200 members.



The FBI i would never think they are 100 % on anything, they spin things to suit them self's,

I know about approximately 200 members, but this is estimated readings.

Anyway i am just dealing in theory Ivy, not hard facts.

Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: DB] #791685
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Originally Posted By: DB
The genovese are extremely violent when they need to be , especially about the rules , if you break them there will be consequences no matter what your rank , but I see where you are coming from , there aren't as many senseless cowboy killings , and if there are , the cowboy will be the one getting hit .

They are just a smart and secret bunch that still wield some fear in their world . It pretty amazing actually how they have been able to earn thru the times . Shoot several of these guys could be considered bona fide real estate experts , in both illegal and legal dealings , making $ during the boom and bust.


Yes illegal and legal dealings, keeping low, makes me think they have smaller membership tham people think. just a theory on my part.

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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #791718
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i don't think the ny families still have 200 plus soldiers

if they do then they're fucking illiterate

that would also explain the excessive number of documented rats

Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #791735
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Your bizarre jealousy of 'my hometowns LCN is better than your hometowns LCN' is seriously weird.

The cry for attention thing is moving from weird to annoying to now pathological.

It lost it's humour a long time ago.


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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: cookcounty] #791742
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
i don't think the ny families still have 200 plus soldiers

if they do then they're fucking illiterate

that would also explain the excessive number of documented rats


You're right, Cook.

The Outfit is immortal.

The Outfit dwarfs the five New York Families by half.

The Outfit has no rats and New York is full of them.

And they STILL don't want you.

Because you're fucking Black.

And they think you're an animal.


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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #791758
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Man, you guys are way too hard on Cook, and, Cook you are way too aggressive in asserting your opinions.

Now let's all hold hands and get a long.

Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: blacksheep] #791764
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@ slumpy.

700 of the same repetitious shit stirring rehashed trolling posts and you'd start to lose your temper too.

Cooks a 5yr old who thinks the same joke told 500 times is funny.

So why it may seem people are harsh on him. It's his rodeo.

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Re: How do the genovese do it? [Re: Shamm11375] #791862
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Originally Posted By: Shamm11375
How come there isnt a lot out there about "Tough Tony", I have been going to Parkside for many years, so I'm curious about that guy
Today's Daily News has some pictures of him and a little write up on the restaurant.


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Originally Posted By: njcapo35
Originally Posted By: Shamm11375
How come there isnt a lot out there about "Tough Tony", I have been going to Parkside for many years, so I'm curious about that guy
Today's Daily News has some pictures of him and a little write up on the restaurant.


I searched the NY Daily News site and couldn't find it. Maybe it was in another paper? Would like to read it.

Federici was also honored by former Queens borough president Claire Schulman. Some sort of award for being important to the corona community and such. Either it means he really quit mob life or the Queens borough president joined it.

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The Lucchese Family had several black associates on one of its latest charts.

And don't forget Stacks.


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Originally Posted By: Flushing
I searched the NY Daily News site and couldn't find it. Maybe it was in another paper? Would like to read it.
It def was the Daily News...It's probably one of those clips where they don't put it on the website and just have it in the paper.... Go to your local corner store and see if they have yesterday's paper, it was in there....


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