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Re: How do the genovese do it?
[Re: Yankees1951]
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07/22/14 01:12 PM
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Also there doesn't seem to be any power hungry guys towards the top. The top spot has been vacant for 9 years, and not even the acting bosses or ruling panel members have tried to take over (Fiurama being the exception, but he tried to do it peacefully). If there ever is an official boss, there probably has to be consensus amongst the rest of the family (and not the John Gotti kind kind of consensus ). Ted you and PB think alike I'll take that as a compliment.
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Re: How do the genovese do it?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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07/22/14 01:18 PM
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The Genovese could be smaller in number, and that is why they do so good at keeping low, i know people on here say they are same in man power as the gambino and are bigger in importance.
Or the Genovese could have alot criminals who are business men and are in no way violent so they are not in the news or doing crimes that other families get heat from doing.
Genovese, Gigante got some Lucchese Family members to get people to bomb attack Gambino Family one time, i think this shows his own Family members are business men, and any hits etc are done by people outside the Genovese Family.
Genovese Family could be all old men who do not let anyone know who they are and membership are not known to each other on the ground.
Well it's just not a matter of forum posters saying they match the Gambinos in size. The FBI has consistently had the family as being the largest (rivaled in size only by the Gambinos) for at least 20 years now. Most of the latest figures put the family at approximately 200 members. the same fbi that said the outfit only had 2 crews with the alleged defunct crew doing violent shit
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Re: How do the genovese do it?
[Re: cookcounty]
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07/22/14 02:25 PM
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The Genovese could be smaller in number, and that is why they do so good at keeping low, i know people on here say they are same in man power as the gambino and are bigger in importance.
Or the Genovese could have alot criminals who are business men and are in no way violent so they are not in the news or doing crimes that other families get heat from doing.
Genovese, Gigante got some Lucchese Family members to get people to bomb attack Gambino Family one time, i think this shows his own Family members are business men, and any hits etc are done by people outside the Genovese Family.
Genovese Family could be all old men who do not let anyone know who they are and membership are not known to each other on the ground.
Well it's just not a matter of forum posters saying they match the Gambinos in size. The FBI has consistently had the family as being the largest (rivaled in size only by the Gambinos) for at least 20 years now. Most of the latest figures put the family at approximately 200 members. the same fbi that said the outfit only had 2 crews with the alleged defunct crew doing violent shit They hate you because of the colour of your skin yet you still defend them
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Re: How do the genovese do it?
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07/22/14 02:36 PM
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The Genovese could be smaller in number, and that is why they do so good at keeping low, i know people on here say they are same in man power as the gambino and are bigger in importance.
Or the Genovese could have alot criminals who are business men and are in no way violent so they are not in the news or doing crimes that other families get heat from doing.
Genovese, Gigante got some Lucchese Family members to get people to bomb attack Gambino Family one time, i think this shows his own Family members are business men, and any hits etc are done by people outside the Genovese Family.
Genovese Family could be all old men who do not let anyone know who they are and membership are not known to each other on the ground.
Well it's just not a matter of forum posters saying they match the Gambinos in size. The FBI has consistently had the family as being the largest (rivaled in size only by the Gambinos) for at least 20 years now. Most of the latest figures put the family at approximately 200 members. the same fbi that said the outfit only had 2 crews with the alleged defunct crew doing violent shit They hate you because of the colour of your skin yet you still defend them more like they ran from their neighborhoods when a black doctor moved on the block
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Re: How do the genovese do it?
[Re: blacksheep]
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07/22/14 06:24 PM
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Some people talk like the mob is the KKK. They aren't exactly progressive with race relations, but they're not burning crosses either. They work with black people and they wouldn't leave a restaurant if a black couple walked in, but they usually want a certain degree of separation. But remember that they make their living on the streets with a bunch of criminals. They are usually brushing up against the thugs, addicts, and gangs. It's all a matter of perspective. It's a bit much to assume they all hate you because of your skin color. Just something to consider ya know..
Edit-- I have been informed of some pretty awful shit, but I guess I just knew of people who weren't quite so hostile.
Last edited by blacksheep; 07/22/14 07:07 PM.
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Re: How do the genovese do it?
[Re: cookcounty]
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07/23/14 10:36 AM
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the same fbi that said the outfit only had 2 crews
with the alleged defunct crew doing violent shit You again? The FBI said 2 or 3 crews but they never specified which ones or made any comment about Grand Avenue.
Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
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Re: How do the genovese do it?
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07/25/14 12:30 AM
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Every time I hear the name, Genovese, the first place comes to mind is the Bronx. There's something in that Bronx water. Makes em loyal sonsabitches. I'd say the worst water in all of NYC has to be in Staten Island, lotsa rats pissin in that reservoir. I think they have traditionally been based in the Little Italy area and the Luccesse's are form the Bronx. The Genovese were geographically widespread. They had (until recently) a crews in Springfield, Mass and a made member in New Bedford, Mass. They had crews in Florida (like every family). They have the Tough Tony crew in Queens and a bunch in Brooklyn, including what's left of the Gallo gang (not much) in Red Hook. Then there's Jersey, where I am guessing half of the Genovese are based now. Plus the Bronx and northern suburbs, where the 116th street crew now is based. Maybe a handful left of the Grennwich Village crew too. Conversely, the Colombos are in Gravesend, Brooklyn and Staten Island...just a few crews. That's it. Also,the Genovese guys almost always plea out. The last Genovese guy who decided not to plea out a case was Larry Ricci. So they stuffed him in the trunk of a car.
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Re: How do the genovese do it?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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07/25/14 06:55 AM
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The Genovese could be smaller in number, and that is why they do so good at keeping low, i know people on here say they are same in man power as the gambino and are bigger in importance.
Or the Genovese could have alot criminals who are business men and are in no way violent so they are not in the news or doing crimes that other families get heat from doing.
Genovese, Gigante got some Lucchese Family members to get people to bomb attack Gambino Family one time, i think this shows his own Family members are business men, and any hits etc are done by people outside the Genovese Family.
Genovese Family could be all old men who do not let anyone know who they are and membership are not known to each other on the ground.
Well it's just not a matter of forum posters saying they match the Gambinos in size. The FBI has consistently had the family as being the largest (rivaled in size only by the Gambinos) for at least 20 years now. Most of the latest figures put the family at approximately 200 members. The FBI i would never think they are 100 % on anything, they spin things to suit them self's, I know about approximately 200 members, but this is estimated readings. Anyway i am just dealing in theory Ivy, not hard facts.
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Re: How do the genovese do it?
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07/25/14 07:03 AM
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The genovese are extremely violent when they need to be , especially about the rules , if you break them there will be consequences no matter what your rank , but I see where you are coming from , there aren't as many senseless cowboy killings , and if there are , the cowboy will be the one getting hit .
They are just a smart and secret bunch that still wield some fear in their world . It pretty amazing actually how they have been able to earn thru the times . Shoot several of these guys could be considered bona fide real estate experts , in both illegal and legal dealings , making $ during the boom and bust. Yes illegal and legal dealings, keeping low, makes me think they have smaller membership tham people think. just a theory on my part.
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Re: How do the genovese do it?
[Re: cookcounty]
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07/25/14 11:03 AM
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i don't think the ny families still have 200 plus soldiers
if they do then they're fucking illiterate
that would also explain the excessive number of documented rats
You're right, Cook. The Outfit is immortal. The Outfit dwarfs the five New York Families by half. The Outfit has no rats and New York is full of them. And they STILL don't want you. Because you're fucking Black. And they think you're an animal.
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Re: How do the genovese do it?
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07/26/14 06:42 AM
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How come there isnt a lot out there about "Tough Tony", I have been going to Parkside for many years, so I'm curious about that guy Today's Daily News has some pictures of him and a little write up on the restaurant.
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Re: How do the genovese do it?
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07/27/14 01:34 AM
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How come there isnt a lot out there about "Tough Tony", I have been going to Parkside for many years, so I'm curious about that guy Today's Daily News has some pictures of him and a little write up on the restaurant. I searched the NY Daily News site and couldn't find it. Maybe it was in another paper? Would like to read it. Federici was also honored by former Queens borough president Claire Schulman. Some sort of award for being important to the corona community and such. Either it means he really quit mob life or the Queens borough president joined it.
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Re: How do the genovese do it?
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07/27/14 06:42 AM
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I searched the NY Daily News site and couldn't find it. Maybe it was in another paper? Would like to read it. It def was the Daily News...It's probably one of those clips where they don't put it on the website and just have it in the paper.... Go to your local corner store and see if they have yesterday's paper, it was in there....
"Jersey...It's where my story begins."
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