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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/25/14 05:13 AM
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AS for Jackie, a lot of people have said he's merely a soldier, who knows but with him being close to Cali he could be a skipper. That's what I mean. In, out, soldier, skipper, he's in a good spot, so what's the difference? If he's smart he's at Saratoga enjoying the horses. Who could blame him? I thought he was known as a degenerate gambler and a brokester who only rose due to his closeness to Gotti.
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/25/14 06:07 AM
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AS for Jackie, a lot of people have said he's merely a soldier, who knows but with him being close to Cali he could be a skipper. That's what I mean. In, out, soldier, skipper, he's in a good spot, so what's the difference? If he's smart he's at Saratoga enjoying the horses. Who could blame him? I thought he was known as a degenerate gambler and a brokester who only rose due to his closeness to Gotti. He was a brokester most of his life. I posted that earlier in the thread. And he ended up very well off anyway. All the more reason to enjoy life if you ask me. Here's what I said: And we're talking about a guy who didn't have two nickels to rub together for a good portion of his life. And today he's loaded. That makes for the retiring mindset if you ask me.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/25/14 06:30 AM
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AS for Jackie, a lot of people have said he's merely a soldier, who knows but with him being close to Cali he could be a skipper. That's what I mean. In, out, soldier, skipper, he's in a good spot, so what's the difference? If he's smart he's at Saratoga enjoying the horses. Who could blame him? I thought he was known as a degenerate gambler and a brokester who only rose due to his closeness to Gotti. He was a brokester most of his life. I posted that earlier in the thread. And he ended up very well off anyway. All the more reason to enjoy life if you ask me. Here's what I said: And we're talking about a guy who didn't have two nickels to rub together for a good portion of his life. And today he's loaded. That makes for the retiring mindset if you ask me. Where did all his money come from? I don't remember him being mentioned in any big bookmaking or schemes. Guess from the kick ups when he was on the panel and acting?
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/25/14 06:44 AM
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Guess from the kick ups when he was on the panel and acting? That's gotta be it. Because he ain't a brokester no more .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/25/14 07:58 AM
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Is he still a soda salesman with a company car? Some of these job titles on their tax returns are a fucking riot. I agree .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/25/14 09:28 AM
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PB, do you actually know connected guys or do you do a lot of research? All research. Obvious, no? Research ...The Internet ...The Street...all I have to say is one word. RESPECT!
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/25/14 01:41 PM
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May I inquire as to what basis posters are stating Jackie's a man of wealth? No one said he's "wealthy." I don't throw that term around lightly. It's like the old Chris Rock joke. Oprah's rich. The guy who signs her check is wealthy. But serving on the panel awhile back, coupled with his close relationship with Frank Cali, pulled him out of debt. And he's living at a much more comfortable level than he ever did before. That's all. The guy is pushing 80. I hope he's retired for his own sake. Who needs that kind of aggravation at his age?
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/25/14 11:10 PM
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I am sure he is an a fluent Italian speaker so was in favour with the zips in the past
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/26/14 04:15 AM
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Michael DiLeonardo testimony says Jackie was a captain since 1986 http://www.onewal.com/nw-dileo.htmlUnder the Wing of Jackie Nose Q. Now, did there come a time later that same year, we're in 1986, that your own captain, Lilo Garafola, passed away? A. Yes. Q. And who succeeded him in that position? A. Jackie D'Amico. Q. Jack D'Amico, is he known by any other names on the street? A. "Jackie Nose". Q. And I'm showing you government's exhibit 15 on the screen. Who is that? A. Jackie Nose. Q. And you say his nickname is "Jackie Nose." How did he come by that name? A. He had his nose fixed, he had a big, distorted nose at onetime. Q. What was the nature of your relationship with Jackie Nose D'Amico from that point forward when he succeeded Lilo Garafola as your captain? A. I was with Jack almost every day. Q. Now, did there come a time that Jackie "Nose" D'Amico proposed you for membership to be straightened out as a soldier in the Gambino family? A. Yes. Q. When, approximately, was that? A. When did he propose me? Q. Yeah. A. Almost immediately. Q. So around '86, '87? A. Right. Q. Did D'Amico have any suggestions for you as to how you could raise your profile to increase your chances of getting straightened out? A. Yes, he wanted me to come around the Ravenite whenever they were open, whenever John was there -- he wanted me to be around the boss more often -- or go out to the Bergen Hunt and Fish on Saturday. Q. And what was the Bergen Hunt and Fish? A. That was John Gotti's headquarters. Q. John Gotti, Sr.? A. Senior. Q. And did you actually start attending these social clubs? A. Yeah. Q. As recommended? A. Yes, I did. Q. And by 1988, approximately how many times a week were you at John Gotti, Sr.'s social club, the Ravenite, on Mulberry Street? A. That would be three or four. Q. And who would you see there on a weekly basis? A. Just about everybody in the family. Throughout that week, everybody would come. Q. Just name a few. A. Jimmy Brown, Danny Marino, Sammy Gravano, Louie Milito, Mario Cina, Tony C. old-timer from New Jersey, a captain. Louie Brag, another captain. Gregg DePalma.
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/26/14 10:01 AM
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I think its more of the fact that he was a spender/drinker/gambler that made him a "brokester".. he made $ he just couldn't keep it in his pocket.. he had hal irving and the german on record with him.. and he did run a book and the bank came straight from 282's pension fund.. I heard he lost 200k in a high stakes game that goes on in a certain hotel in midtown..so he owed 200k plus 4 a week in juice that he didn't have, to Frankie and butters, Frankie ended up dead and eventually he paid butters back after a sit down. ive been told he went from nobody to boss just writing wagers.. That's all true. And I know you didn't find that online . But he's pretty well off right now. Re Jackie as an "ass kisser." I honestly think that's been overblown. The guy had his button before Gotti rose to power, so it's not like Gotti made him. I honestly think they just enjoyed each other's company and bonded over the gambling. Gamblers are ALWAYS drawn to each other. It's a fact of life. And sure, Jackie was always a little too talkative at the Gotti trials. Especially the last one. But I think he was speaking out of genuine affection. I really do.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/26/14 02:34 PM
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I got the info off wikipedia... So true about degenerate gamblers.. That's all people need in common to be best friends.. Cause literally that's all they talk about. Yup. That corny old saying about "birds of a feather," is never more appropriate than with gamblers. It really is a fucking disease when it gets to a certain point.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/26/14 11:49 PM
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So true about degenerate gamblers.. That's all people need in common to be best friends.. Cause literally that's all they talk about.. I actually think gotti used to bet through jackies book.
YES this is 100% true ive known guys who were gambling addicts and then when they meet another gsambler thay just become really close within in a very short period of time.Gotti apparently had such a sickness for gambling that he only ever talked about his losses and apperantly the worst type of gamblers get off on losing not on winning this is why a guy like gotti could win a mill in an hour and then blow it all soon after because he doesnt feel comfortable until its all gone
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/27/14 05:04 AM
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Is Jackie a killer?
I can only by the pictures of him but he just does not look like a killer!
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/27/14 07:23 AM
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They are all killers buddy.. Not remotely true. They're all a part of something that condones and even promotes murder. And if that makes them "guilty by extension," so be it. But the overwhelming majority of mob guys have never pulled the trigger. There have literally been thousands of made guys in New York since the Mafia's inception here. And less than half that amount of mob murders. Simple math disproves the old myth that you have to kill someone to get made.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/27/14 01:22 PM
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I glad that you are here to have me corected,i dont know what would i do without you...so you know a lot of guys that were in the mob without killing anyone?and is it so antrue to say that they are all killers??and is it true that condoming a murder makek you a killer yourself? What's wrong with you? I was polite as could be, and went out of my to say that it may make them "guilty by extension." They're all a part of something that condones and even promotes murder. And if that makes them "guilty by extension," so be it. But the overwhelming majority of mob guys have never pulled the trigger.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Jackie the nose
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07/27/14 02:26 PM
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I don't know what your problem is, no one was coming at you sideways he was just clarifying something... And its true not even half of made guys have pulled the trigger.. You don't need a family full of murderers. Just a handful of capable guys. They are about making money bottom line. Most of them are brains and schemers.. An earner is a lot more valuable than a shooter.I stated earlier on this thread that jackie nose went from soldier to boss doing nothing more than writing wagers.. Frank cali is another one who's probably never held a gun in his life let alone killed someone. If you had to kill someone to get a button there would be bodies everywhere. Thanks, buddy. That's all I was trying to say. Let it go now and get it back on topic. But you know I appreciate it .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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