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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
[Re: njcapo35]
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07/12/14 07:06 PM
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He was caught on a wiretap saying to his wife that Organized Crime was bigger then US steel....So?... ...so organized crime might have been bigger than US Steel, but Lansky wasn't. As PB said, Robert Lacey's bio, the best ever, is thoroughly researched. Lacey traced the big-money BS to Hank Messick, a tabloid author who admitted to Lacey that he heard, second-hand, that Lansky was "worth $300 million" and went with it in his book because it was an impressive number. Lacey did the research and found that Lansky was worth no more than $5-6 million at his peak--not chickenfeed, but hardly the stuff of $300 million. The reason Lansky lived to be 81 and died peacefully was that he was never rich or powerful enough to incur the jealousy of real Mob bosses, which is always fatal. "He was the accountant, not the boss," says Lacey.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
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@Turnbull... I can't take what you believe to be facts or opinions away from you or anybody here on this forum. My opinion about Lansky, even tho he was jewish had the power and respect right alongside any top gangster of all time. It also is a know fact that he was instrumental in the development of the National Crime Syndicate in the United States along with Luciano and Costello.....Also what you wrote about Lansky living so long because he didn't incur the jealousy of real Mob bosses?...What about Bonanno(97)and Accardo(86)?....Don't get me wrong i'm not trying to come at you in any way negative i just want to get your insight on this debate.. Thanks
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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
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I know both Lansky's daughter and grandson, and have spoken with them on this. The estimates of his net worth were greatly overstated! Thank you, Scott. I was hoping you'd make a guest appearance. I'm a New Yorker, but I live in Delray part time now, and I have longtime ties to South Florida. My parents had a place in Sunny Isles years back, and a few of the neighbor people knew Teddy Lansky very, very well. I heard that she didn't have all that much after Meyer died. And she was more than a little bitter about it (and that she wasn't very nice to begin with ) .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
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My opinion about Lansky, even tho he was jewish had the power and respect right alongside any top gangster of all time. It also is a know fact that he was instrumental in the development of the National Crime Syndicate in the United States along with Luciano and Costello That's all true. He was very tight with Luciano and others (especially Costello), sat with the Commission, and advised the Commission and individual Dons. He was very influential, but that didn't necessarily make him ultra-rich, because he never had a big organization like the Dons did to kick money upstairs to him. .....Also what you wrote about Lansky living so long because he didn't incur the jealousy of real Mob bosses?...What about Bonanno(97)and Accardo(86)?.... Bonanno lived to 97 because of his genes, and because the Commission gave him a pass after he agreed to relinquish his Donship in 1967. Accardo also had longevity built into him. He was smart enough to step back and let Giancana be the front man for the Outfit while still maintaining influence from the sidelines. Giancana was murdered; Accardo died peacefully.
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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
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I know both Lansky's daughter and grandson, and have spoken with them on this. The estimates of his net worth were greatly overstated! Thank you, Scott. I was hoping you'd make a guest appearance. I'm a New Yorker, but I live in Delray part time now, and I have longtime ties to South Florida. My parents had a place in Sunny Isles years back, and a few of the neighbor people knew Teddy Lansky very, very well. I heard that she didn't have all that much after Meyer died. And she was more than a little bitter about it (and that she wasn't very nice to begin with ) . She wasnt very happy she couldnt live off someone elses money? Tell her ass to get a job and make her own money.
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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
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I know both Lansky's daughter and grandson, and have spoken with them on this. The estimates of his net worth were greatly overstated! Thank you, Scott. I was hoping you'd make a guest appearance. I'm a New Yorker, but I live in Delray part time now, and I have longtime ties to South Florida. My parents had a place in Sunny Isles years back, and a few of the neighbor people knew Teddy Lansky very, very well. I heard that she didn't have all that much after Meyer died. And she was more than a little bitter about it (and that she wasn't very nice to begin with ) . She wasnt very happy she couldnt live off someone elses money? Tell her ass to get a job and make her own money. They say she was a miserable person. But who the Hell knows?
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
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Wasn't the daughter who "wrote" that new book kind of a nutjob too? I dunno, Snakes. It wouldn't surprise me, though .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
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Wasn't the daughter who "wrote" that new book kind of a nutjob too? I dunno, Snakes. It wouldn't surprise me, though . She was a lesbian no?
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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
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Just to answer devil's advocate: in an earlier post I said Lansky was worth $5 - $6 million at his peak--"not chickenfeed then or now." That would have been a very big sum in the late '20's or early '30's.
But, as I also posted, Lansky never had his own organization with associates kicking money upstairs to him, the way Mafia Dons prosper. Even in Cuba, Lansky was getting a fee from Batista to clean up and run gambling. He didn't actually own a casino until he put $5 million of his and investors' money (along with $6 million from Batista) into the Havana Riviera. It opened in March 1958, and Castro nationalized it a year later. He lost it all. According to Robert Lacey, Lansky spent his last $50k on a hail-Mary operation for his disabled son, Buddy.
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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
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07/16/14 11:40 AM
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From the two books I have read about Luciano, multiple businesses were established to handle all aspects of the bootlegging/cutting of the booze (bottle/label makers, trucking companies, etc) so it's likely Luciano and Lansky made a fortune over the long run (and if I remember correctly Costello even was involved with a legitimate liquor manufacturer after Prohibition). But once the government started cracking down, all of those investments evaporated and left Lansky crew-less and with no income stream.
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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
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Wasn't the daughter who "wrote" that new book kind of a nutjob too? I met with her recently, she's a really nice lady- very giving of her time and recollections of her father and his friends.
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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
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07/29/14 02:12 PM
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I STRONGLY suggest that you read "Little Man: Meyer Lansky and the Gangster Life," by Robert Lacey. It's hands down the BEST book ever written about Lansky, and one of the two or three best mob biographies ever written.
You'll come away believing, like I do, as do many serious mob researchers and historians, that Lansky didn't have nearly as much money as the Feds believed that he had. Now he certainly wasn't broke, but he didn't leave much behind at all. What are the titles of the other three mob biographies you mentioned in your post besides the Lansky book? I have not read Lansky's daughter's memoir but she was (or still is???) addicted to meth, and it got pretty bad reviews on various sites. So I'm not going to read it. It would not be surprising if Lansky did blow most of his money, as that's what most people do when they make a lot of money, either legal or illegal at once.
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Re: Meyer lansky put on an act?
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I STRONGLY suggest that you read "Little Man: Meyer Lansky and the Gangster Life," by Robert Lacey. It's hands down the BEST book ever written about Lansky, and one of the two or three best mob biographies ever written.
You'll come away believing, like I do, as do many serious mob researchers and historians, that Lansky didn't have nearly as much money as the Feds believed that he had. Now he certainly wasn't broke, but he didn't leave much behind at all. What are the titles of the other three mob biographies you mentioned in your post besides the Lansky book? I have not read Lansky's daughter's memoir but she was (or still is???) addicted to meth, and it got pretty bad reviews on various sites. So I'm not going to read it. It would not be surprising if Lansky did blow most of his money, as that's what most people do when they make a lot of money, either legal or illegal at once.
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