Who do you guys think is the better actor? Personally I think with some of Bales recent performances he has quietly become arguably the best actor in the business right now.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#785036 06/21/1410:50 AM06/21/1410:50 AM
Who do you guys think is the better actor? Personally I think with some of Bales recent performances he has quietly become arguably the best actor in the business right now.
Dicaprio imo. He was excellent in Catch Me If you Can, The Aviator and The Wolf of Wall Street to name a few. Out of interest what recent performances are you talking about? I thought he was really good in American Hustle and American Psycho . To be honest i think there's better actors right now than both of them, like Daniel Day Lewis and Joaquin Phoenix.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#785508 06/23/1406:22 PM06/23/1406:22 PM
The fighter, American hustle, the machinist, the prestige, batman trilogy etc. I think both are great don't get me wrong. But I just feel like Bale puts absolutely everything into his performances. I think American Psycho might be his best performance though.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#785509 06/23/1406:23 PM06/23/1406:23 PM
I want to see Phoenix in Inherent vice. I know it's supposed to be a comedy but I can see him being funny. Still no trailer out yet which tells me that maybe the movie will be pushed back.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#785521 06/23/1407:15 PM06/23/1407:15 PM
I want to see Phoenix in Inherent vice. I know it's supposed to be a comedy but I can see him being funny. Still no trailer out yet which tells me that maybe the movie will be pushed back.
It should be released in late December, there's plenty of time for a trailer.
Have you seen any of PTA's comedies? The humour is mostly derived from his scripts and even then it's minimal. Well i guess Boogie Nights is the exception. No doubt Phoenix is a dramatic actor, but i personally think he's the best actor working today and would be able to pull it off. You get to see flashes of it throughout The Master.
Thomas Pynchon has approved of PTA's script (the first of his novels he's allowed to be filmed) , so i imagine it will be just like the book. If anyone has read it?
According to this it's going to be The Big Lebowski meets The Long Goodbye, which can only be good.
The fighter, American hustle, the machinist, the prestige, batman trilogy etc. I think both are great don't get me wrong. But I just feel like Bale puts absolutely everything into his performances. I think American Psycho might be his best performance though.
He was good in Hustle and The Fighter. Haven't seen The Machinist, and i didn't find anything special about him in The Prestige (or that movie for that matter). He was ok as Bruce Wayne, but i'm probably one of the few that preferred Michael Keaton. Another one i remembered was his debut in Spielbergs, Empire of the Sun, he was pretty good in that.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#785619 06/24/1410:01 AM06/24/1410:01 AM
Rescue Dawn as well. But the prestige isn't a movie that I can watch all the time like goodfellas or anything but I just think is performance is great. But nah I haven't seen too much of PTA. I should probably check out some of his stuff. I'm really looking forward to that movie.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#785623 06/24/1410:15 AM06/24/1410:15 AM
Rescue Dawn as well. But the prestige isn't a movie that I can watch all the time like goodfellas or anything but I just think is performance is great. But nah I haven't seen too much of PTA. I should probably check out some of his stuff. I'm really looking forward to that movie.
You should watch them all including his debut Hard Eight, which is probably his weakest but he was only 25 when he made it. As well as his two short films The Dirk Diggler Story, which is the short film Boogie Nights is based on which he made when he was 18. And Ciggarettes and Coffe which is the basis for Hard Eight.
PTA didn't actually attend film school, he taught himself how to make movies by reading film magazines and started making movies when he was 12 from a camera his dad bought him. He later managed to become an assistant on a number of movie sets including for Robert Altman, before making his short movies with money that was supposed to be for college.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#785626 06/24/1410:21 AM06/24/1410:21 AM
They are both good. Tho I haven't seen many of either of their films, I'll go with DiCaprio. Just last week I saw Shutter Island, and tho the ending was somewhat of a disappointment, Leo's performance was good.
A few years ago, I caught part of "American Psycho" on tv, with Christian Bale. OMG what a shocker. I wasn't expecting such a depressing plot. Then again, what would one expect from the film title right? Never saw the entire film. I've seen it on before, but need to be in the mood to watch I guess.
Btw, I thought I read that at one time, they were considering casting DiCaprio in the title role.
TIS
Last edited by The Italian Stallionette; 06/24/1410:21 AM.
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#785628 06/24/1410:25 AM06/24/1410:25 AM
American Psycho is a black comedy, i thought it was hilarious. You should watch it all the way through TIS, it has a good ending/last 20 minutes or so.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Camarel]
#785633 06/24/1410:35 AM06/24/1410:35 AM
American Psycho is a black comedy, i thought it was hilarious. You should watch it all the way through TIS, it has a good ending/last 20 minutes or so.
Camarel,
OMG,I must have not watched enough of it, but I really didn't know it was a comedy. It was late at night, I was half asleep but damn, it did perk me up. I just thought it was sick, but black comedy, does put a different spin on it I guess. I'll try to catch when it's on again.
TIS
Last edited by The Italian Stallionette; 06/24/1410:56 AM.
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#785648 06/24/1411:08 AM06/24/1411:08 AM
Well there are a few gory death scenes but they are too cartoony to take seriously imo. The comedy is quite subtle at times, but if you were to watch it all i'm sure you'd know what i mean.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Camarel]
#785650 06/24/1411:11 AM06/24/1411:11 AM
American Psycho is a black comedy, i thought it was hilarious. You should watch it all the way through TIS, it has a good ending/last 20 minutes or so.
One of my favorite movies
"Asking us questions...harass and arrest us ..saying we eat pieces of shiet like u for breakfast ...Huh ya'll eat pieces of shiet..? whats the basis we ain't going no where.. we got suits n cases.. trunk full of coke rental car from avis only now clemente can save us,, I told said solly I acted da fool I'll be gone till November I got bodies too move.... I put pebbles on my hood like Danny Greene here comes the crab n his queen yes barbara actin da fool mess with a pyscho u kno its time to move.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#785692 06/24/1401:00 PM06/24/1401:00 PM
The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers. First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves. It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.
Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared
"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"
"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#785778 06/24/1406:36 PM06/24/1406:36 PM
What about Matthew Mcconaughey? He's been amazing lately I think the route he's taken has been wonderful. He's been working with great directors and giving outstanding performances while taking risks at the same time. I think he's been the best actor in the business lately. And it looks like he's gonna keep up the good work with his new movie directed by Chris Nolan "Interstellar".
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#787930 07/08/1406:34 PM07/08/1406:34 PM
What about Matthew Mcconaughey? He's been amazing lately I think the route he's taken has been wonderful. He's been working with great directors and giving outstanding performances while taking risks at the same time. I think he's been the best actor in the business lately. And it looks like he's gonna keep up the good work with his new movie directed by Chris Nolan "Interstellar".
McConaughey was great in both Dallas Buyers Club and True Detective, but he still has to answer for some horrendous movies he decided to do in the past. To be honest he's in the "Hollywood love" period, which will last 2-3 years of him accepting Oscar-bait roles before he becomes a Marvel character or some other money spinning role.
This is what i'll always remember him for -
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#788053 07/09/1408:26 AM07/09/1408:26 AM
Brad Pitt (just a pretty face; almost singlehandedly ruined 30 Years a Slave with his one scene) Mark Wahlberg (atrocious) Denzel Washington (same in every movie) Sean Penn (he can stretch every sinew in his face all he wants. I'm not convinced by his overwrought mugging) Johnny Depp (plays an eccentric/pirate or a variation of an eccentric/pirate in every movie though Donnie Brasco proved he can be good) Nicolas Cage (acts like he's on cocaine in every movie)
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
#788060 07/09/1408:49 AM07/09/1408:49 AM
Brad Pitt (just a pretty face; almost singlehandedly ruined 30 Years a Slave with his one scene) Mark Wahlberg (atrocious) Denzel Washington (same in every movie) Sean Penn (he can stretch every sinew in his face all he wants. I'm not convinced by his overwrought mugging) Johnny Depp (plays an eccentric/pirate or a variation of an eccentric/pirate in every movie though Donnie Brasco proved he can be good) Nicolas Cage (acts like he's on cocaine in every movie)
Agreed on every one of them, but was Cage ever rated? To me he's always been a punchline for a terrible actor like Keanu Reeves except Cage is actually watchable. I liked Depp in Benny and Joon (good Chaplin/Keaton impersanation imo) as well as Fear and Loathing but overall he's overrated. Pitt was quite good in Se7en as well. Other than that they're all average or bad.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#788233 07/10/1408:37 AM07/10/1408:37 AM
I disagree on Denzel I think he's great. Maybe lately he hasn't been as great but he's still one of the greatest imo. But yes I agree Mcconaughey has been in many bad chick flick movies. But I think he is answering for them now with his recent roles definitely. I'm just saying that as of present day I think he is one the greatest actors in the business right now if not the greatest. But we'll see. Norton was great I love him. I think him and Mcconaughey have a lot of similarities in certain ways. I think Mcconaughey has been phenomenal lately though very impressed.
Last edited by Revis_Island; 07/10/1408:41 AM.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Camarel]
#788234 07/10/1408:40 AM07/10/1408:40 AM
What about Matthew Mcconaughey? He's been amazing lately I think the route he's taken has been wonderful. He's been working with great directors and giving outstanding performances while taking risks at the same time. I think he's been the best actor in the business lately. And it looks like he's gonna keep up the good work with his new movie directed by Chris Nolan "Interstellar".
McConaughey was great in both Dallas Buyers Club and True Detective, but he still has to answer for some horrendous movies he decided to do in the past. To be honest he's in the "Hollywood love" period, which will last 2-3 years of him accepting Oscar-bait roles before he becomes a Marvel character or some other money spinning role.
This is what i'll always remember him for -
I sure hope he doesn't just start taking the money. It's possible though it's happened before deifnitely. But Wooderson was great man. One of his best performances even though it was a small part. Alright alright alright.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#788235 07/10/1408:45 AM07/10/1408:45 AM
And I like Pitt I think he's pretty good. He's never been seen as the greatest actor but a great actor. I think he's showcased that in certain roles. When you call someone overrated you're saying that they're average but get praised as if they're one of the greatest. I would never say that Denzel is average or Pitt for that matter. I believe both are great. Denzel more than Pitt. I think if you go down Denzel's best performances you'll see a lot of great ones. I personay prefer him over morgan freeman who I feel usually plays the same person except for the time he played the pimp. But even when he played the pimp I just couldn't find him believable as a tough guy. Freeman is still great. Just overhyped.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
#788291 07/10/1404:57 PM07/10/1404:57 PM
I just don't think Brad Pitt has the depth to pull off weighty scenes.
He's barely even believable doing a monologue in a perfume ad.
Don't get me wrong. I like him in Seven and Fight Club but it's not because of his acting. It's because he is/was a cool guy; at least before Angelina Jolie got her hands on him.
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: Leonardo DiCaprio vs Christian Bale
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
#788300 07/10/1405:56 PM07/10/1405:56 PM
Before he got black listed, Edward Norton trumped them all.
Just noticed this i think Norton also fits into the overrated bracket, to clarify i don't actually think he's a bad or average actor since Revis has redefined the word overrated .*
Norton was pretty good in American History X and his best role imo: 25th Hour. The problem i have with him is Primal Fear, neither the choirboy or Roy are believable. Yet it's usually touted as an underrated performance, the twist is the reason people rethink both characters imo.
Saying someone is overrated in no way means you're saying they're average! Plenty of directors,actors,etc; i'd rate from good to great but still think they're overrated. For example i imagine if we were to have a poll of this site Quentin Tarantino would make the top 5 at least, while he'd be lucky to crack my top 20. Yet i think he's a good director.