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Re: Silence of the lambs vs Cape Fear [Re: Revis_Knicks] #785079
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I started gangs of New York but never finished it. Wasn't my favorite scorsese film. I should probably watch it sometime to give it a second chance. But after thinking about it, I know you guys don't think De Niro was that good in cape fear and everything but I really thought he was great. The way he got into character and how crazy his character was and at the same time he could act sensitive and subtle(like the seen with the daughter). I have it on DVD and I just watched it again. I do think Hopkins was better though. But I think De Niro's performance was not far behind his. I think Cady's character had more of a comedic side than lector. Maybe that's why the character didn't seem as crazy as the original max cady? I didn't see the original so I really don't know

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Originally Posted By: Revis_Island
I started gangs of New York but never finished it. Wasn't my favorite scorsese film. I should probably watch it sometime to give it a second chance. But after thinking about it, I know you guys don't think De Niro was that good in cape fear and everything but I really thought he was great. The way he got into character and how crazy his character was and at the same time he could act sensitive and subtle(like the seen with the daughter). I have it on DVD and I just watched it again. I do think Hopkins was better though . But I think De Niro's performance was not far behind his. I think Cady's character had more of a comedic side than lector. Maybe that's why the character didn't seem as crazy as the original max cady? I didn't see the original so I really don't know


Deniro was pretty good in Cape Fear. It's just got nothing on Robert Mitchums "Max Cady", you should watch the original Cape Fear and also Night of the Hunter. Mitchum was actually in the remake as LT.Elgart.

As i said i would've voted for both JOhn Turturro and Andy Lau above him.

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Se7en was years later Ivy. Great performance anyway.

Yeah, get with it, Ivy tongue lol .

But seriously, the kid is right. We're talking about films released in 1991, and eligible for the Oscars that took place on March 30, 1992: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64th_Academy_Awards


I was speaking in general as far as serial killer thrillers like that go, not really about who deserved what that particular year.


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I agree Ivy. Kevin Spacey was definitely killer. No pun intended. And maybe someday I'll get around to watching it. I just think De Niro plays crazy Max Cady so damn good. I think it's definitely in his top 10 best perfromances. Probably the lower half of the top 10 but I still feel he was great regardless. Has nothing on his performance in deer hunter, raging bull, taxi driver etc. but what performances do?

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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
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Originally Posted By: Camarel
Se7en was years later Ivy. Great performance anyway.

Yeah, get with it, Ivy tongue lol .

But seriously, the kid is right. We're talking about films released in 1991, and eligible for the Oscars that took place on March 30, 1992: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64th_Academy_Awards


I was speaking in general as far as serial killer thrillers like that go, not really about who deserved what that particular year.


I see, i missed that fair enough then. I'd agree then i preffered Spacey to Hopkins too.

This is my favourite serial killer movie (i haven't seen much), which i'd suggest to everyone - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memories_of_Murder

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Mine is definitely the Zodiac. Love that movie. The first time I watched it my eyes were glued to the screen and I was kept thinking hours after the movie had ended. And it was like 1 in the morning lol.

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Night of the hunter was a good movie. A lot of ex cons have tattoo's on their fingers that say good on one hand and evil on the other hand.


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Not a movie, but C. Thomas Howell (yeah, Pony Boy!) was great as The Reaper on "Criminal Minds."

And speaking of Howell, he played the kid in the "The Hitcher." Rutger Hauer was pretty good as a serial killer in that film.


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Night of the hunter was a good movie. A lot of ex cons have tattoo's on their fingers that say good on one hand and evil on the other hand.


It's actually Love/Hate.

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couldn't get into gangs of New York even though I tried a few times... Cape fear... Cady was so crazy loll that poor girl at the bar... Cady was more attractive than her married boyfriend too... that was AWFUL

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Silence of the lambs too that guy was WAY to weird to even want to look at let alone have to speak to.

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Silence of the Lambs was a better movie than Cape Fear, and I thought Anthony Hopkins' character and portrayal were better than DeNiro's. Some of the credit goes to Thomas Harris, the writer of the novel, who cleverly invented the character.

Max Cady was kind of a caricature on the screen, evil as hell but predictable. Hopkins' Hannibal Lecter was shrouded in mystery and his nature and depth of evil were slowly revealed layer by layer by an acting performance that built a shroud of mystery through the whole show.

As Ivy said, Kevin Spacey was brilliant in his brief appearance in Seven by offering a similarly nuanced performance that magnified the suspense of the film to a degree that wasn't reached in the movie prior to his first appearance.

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I really liked the movie Seven... brad bitt looked really hot.. I thought it was kind of depressing they didn't really ever give the details of what city they were in... or did they and I missed it? I wouldn't want to live in such rainy weather, I wonder if one of the points of the film was to associate weirdness and sociopath ology with cities that have long periods of dreary weather?

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Never saw that... just saw a episode of criminal minds that referenced the zodiac killer. didn't know there was an actual movie as well. gonna try and watch that.

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Zodiac with Mark Ruffalo was a very good film. To this day, the killer has never been identified - he just stopped killing after murdering a taxi driver.

Hopkins brought so much to the role of Lecter in "Silence". I didn't like the sequels, but what other moment can equal that of Hopkins, strapped to a hand truck, calling to the desperate mother, in his elegant accent and snarky tone, "Senator, love your suit!"?


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The sum parts of "Silence," including some great acting performances beyond Hopkins, are what clearly make it better for me than "Cape Fear." Yes, DeNiro was fantastic as Max Cady. But I thought that Nick Nolte & Jessica Lange's roles actually took away from some of the film. And I'm not sure what about her rubs me the wrong way, but I cannot stand the actress Juliette Lewis. Particularly in her "Cape Fear" role.

"Silence" was great not only for the 20 screen minutes that Hopkins brought to Hannibal Lecter, but for the roles of Clarice Starling, Jame Gumb, and Jack Crawford.

To me, the appeal of the Hannibal Lecter character was his presence even when not on screen. Lecter kind of lurked, like the shark in "Jaws." Anthony Hopkins' performance gave the Hannibal Lecter character one of the deepest and far-reaching impacts as a cinematic villain.

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Completely agreed on Juliette Lewis, but it's mostly Natural Born Killers that she annoys me in.

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I liked both films with both lead actors doing a great job. I guess tho, I'd go with Cape Fear. I think it was one of DeNiro's best performances. I haven't cared for or haven't seen much of his more recent work because it just doesn't appeal to me. I'm not into comedies so much.

I totally agree with Juliette Lewis tho. If there was a downside to that film, it was casting her. rolleyes


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Re: Silence of the lambs vs Cape Fear [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #786148
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette

I totally agree with Juliette Lewis tho. If there was a downside to that film, it was casting her. rolleyes


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I'm always uncomfortable watching Juliette Lewis in movies. I can't put my finger on it, but I feel as though she's always on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

She was actually in a movie about 20 years ago with Woody Harrelson where they played serial killers. Tommy Lee Jones and Downey,Jr. were in it as well. It had a surreal darkness to it. Someone here will remember the name of it.

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Originally Posted By: klydon1
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I totally agree with Juliette Lewis tho. If there was a downside to that film, it was casting her. rolleyes


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I'm always uncomfortable watching Juliette Lewis in movies. I can't put my finger on it, but I feel as though she's always on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

She was actually in a movie about 20 years ago with Woody Harrelson where they played serial killers. Tommy Lee Jones and Downey,Jr. were in it as well. It had a surreal darkness to it. Someone here will remember the name of it.


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. I mentioned it a few comments up, she's alot more annoying in that than Cape Fear imo. It was based on the same serial killing couple (can't remember names) that Terrence Malick's excellent imo Badlands was based on.

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I totally agree with Juliette Lewis tho. If there was a downside to that film, it was casting her. rolleyes


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I'm always uncomfortable watching Juliette Lewis in movies. I can't put my finger on it, but I feel as though she's always on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

She was actually in a movie about 20 years ago with Woody Harrelson where they played serial killers. Tommy Lee Jones and Downey,Jr. were in it as well. It had a surreal darkness to it. Someone here will remember the name of it.


Natural Born Killers
. I mentioned it a few comments up, she's alot more annoying in that than Cape Fear imo. It was based on the same serial killing couple (can't remember names) that Terrence Malick's excellent imo Badlands was based on.


Sorry, camarel. Somehow I missed your post or I didn't make the association with the title. But I liked the movie even though she was kind of creepy in it.

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Silence of the lambs too that guy was WAY to weird to even want to look at let alone have to speak to.


Am I the only person who liked Migs and sense of smell in this movie?


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Not a movie, but C. Thomas Howell (yeah, Pony Boy!) was great as The Reaper on "Criminal Minds."

And speaking of Howell, he played the kid in the "The Hitcher." Rutger Hauer was pretty good as a serial killer in that film.


I alway thought Hauser would be a big star when he moved to the states.


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Re: Silence of the lambs vs Cape Fear [Re: klydon1] #786180
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
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I totally agree with Juliette Lewis tho. If there was a downside to that film, it was casting her. rolleyes


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I'm always uncomfortable watching Juliette Lewis in movies. I can't put my finger on it, but I feel as though she's always on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

She was actually in a movie about 20 years ago with Woody Harrelson where they played serial killers. Tommy Lee Jones and Downey,Jr. were in it as well. It had a surreal darkness to it. Someone here will remember the name of it.


Natural Born Killers
. I mentioned it a few comments up, she's alot more annoying in that than Cape Fear imo. It was based on the same serial killing couple (can't remember names) that Terrence Malick's excellent imo Badlands was based on.


Sorry, camarel. Somehow I missed your post or I didn't make the association with the title. But I liked the movie even though she was kind of creepy in it.


No problem. In all honesty i didn't like NBK anyway, an Oliver Stone directed Quentin Tarantino script should have been so much more. Juliette Lewis was the least of that films problems imo.

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Both good movies, think ill go watch Silence Of The Lambs just now.

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Silence of the Lambs. Cape Fear m(1991) is not nearly as good as the original with Robert Mitchum. It is a great noir and Robert Mitchum is awesome as Cady. Deniro IMO comes off too over the top and even cartoonish in the update

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