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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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I can promise you guys that what I said is in the book. The red flag went up when I saw the Bosses' list. He has some good photos and gives a brief description of the murders, who, what, where and when. Good info for sure.
He also lists some things he refers to as "Critical Events." Here's an example that I believe you can identify : " On October 9, 1983 Nick Calabrese and several other Outfit soldiers were ordered to a west suburban restaurant on Roosevelt Road where they appeared in front of the current Outfit Boss Joey "Doves" Aiuppa. At this time Aiuppa and most of the leadership of the Chicago Outfit carried out a ceremony that would give the men "Made" status in the Outfit. While this was a common process in the east coast Mafia, it was rare in Chicago. This information was presented in the Family Secrets testimony and the following men were "Made" that day: Albert Tocco, Jimmy Marcello, Anthony Zizzo, John Matassa, Frank Belmonte and of course the Calabrese brothers Frank and Nick."
No Outfit murders occurred in 1968.
This is the kind of info listed in the book. Lots of dates, especially when Outfit members died and general info that Dr. Johnson refers to as critical events.
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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He doesn't even have Ricca on that list. A little inaccurate... Nicky - Ricca is on the list. I just arbitrarily started with Accardo. Dr. Johnson started with Colosimo, Torrio, Capone, Nitti, Ricca. Sorry, I should have made that clear.
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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D'Amico: 2005?-Present
D'Amico is only speculation on my part.
This based on your own observations? I think you could certainly be correct.
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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The idea that bananas is a dry snitch seems preposterous. Probably exactly what Snakes said, no corroborating evidence. My guess is he's assumed an Accardo senior advisor role and Damico runs EP. Seems that the white collar rackets belongs to them along with some various gambling interests, while the blue collar street stuff is handled by Cicero. My interest has been primarily the Ricca, Accardo and Giancana era, plus FS. But the research and readings lead to comparisons, etc. Everything I've read indicates just what you've posted about JD assuming a role similar to Accardo.
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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Update: listed below is a statement at the end of "A History Of Violence:"
" On March 11, 2011 it was reported by the press based on unsealed federal documents that the two men now leading the Chicago Outfit are Michael Sarno and Salvatore Cataudella. Sarno is in custody from a 2010 federal conviction and was sentenced to 25 yrs in prison which leaves Cataudella as the last man standing. OUTFIT leadership has always been hard to establish as this report is refuted by some Mob watchers."
Well, now we know the origin of the information. And you guys have pointed out that the assertion is incorrect.
I would still recommend the book. It really has a lot of information / data plus some good pictures. Those 2 were never in charge overall. Sarno was probably #2 or #3 in Cicero but never #1. Sammy C is probably Cicero's #3 guy today. And I agree about Ricca. Probably the most underrated boss Chicago has ever had. Had just as much if not more influence than Accardo and Giancana. Had a say in everything from the 30s to 70s and served little jail time.
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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Update: listed below is a statement at the end of "A History Of Violence:"
" On March 11, 2011 it was reported by the press based on unsealed federal documents that the two men now leading the Chicago Outfit are Michael Sarno and Salvatore Cataudella. Sarno is in custody from a 2010 federal conviction and was sentenced to 25 yrs in prison which leaves Cataudella as the last man standing. OUTFIT leadership has always been hard to establish as this report is refuted by some Mob watchers." That was probably the Mutt and Jeff article in the Sun Times. here's a link: Mutt and Jeff A lone disgruntled guy seems to be the source of that info The article says: "A confidential FBI informant, who felt abandoned by the Outfit and was motivated to talk, told the feds in 2007 that Mutt and Jeff “were the current Outfit bosses in the Chicago area,” according to the previously sealed federal document." And "While one informant put Sarno and Cataudella at the top of the Chicago Outfit, another informant advised the FBI that Sarno was still turning over money to reputed Outfit underboss John “No Nose” DiFronzo, also known as “Johnny Bananas.” Another source of information noted that Sarno was higher in the leadership structure and collecting money from reputed 26th Street crew boss Frank “Tootsie Babe” Caruso. Marcello himself called the two men “Mutt and Jeff” in one jailhouse conversation, secretly recorded for the Family Secrets investigation."
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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I think the media is quite silly to take the word if one unknown/unnamed informant. For all we know it was some low level associate in Cicero who had no clue the structure. Not to mention if he felt abandoned, it probably means the guy was shelved for one reason or another.
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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I think the media is quite silly to take the word if one unknown/unnamed informant. For all we know it was some low level associate in Cicero who had no clue the structure. Not to mention if he felt abandoned, it probably means the guy was shelved for one reason or another. To be fair, the media reported what was in a fed affidavit and was pretty dismissive of that particular source's claim. It was Johnson who didn't read the news article all the way through.
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