@ PB
tuscans aren't considered northerns, more like central italians
by those who still care for these sort of things obviously…since the 50s, with the mass immigration south > north, it's as easy to run into someone with a southern last name up there as in the mezzogiorno.
and be careful with the french/northern italian jokes

always, but especially around italians during the world cup!
It was a joke, LK. That's all. My main point was that Debi Mazar is a loud mouthed twat. And she ain't Italian, northern or otherwise. Just a white trash pig from Jamaica, Queens who married up. And just for the record, Tuscany is still north or Rome. And it just rubs me fucking raw when Americans go on and on about Milan and other tourist traps to the north, like the south is an afterthought.
That's what bugged me about Maria Laurino's book ("Were You Always an Italian?"). It was well written, but when she finally made it to Italy it was to the north, not where her family is from in the south. Not to mention the fact that she's obviously filled with self-hate because she's dark skinned. The part about being ashamed while visiting Brooklyn made me sick (especially considering that she's not from the area). And in typical self-hating Yuppie fashion, she married a man who wasn't of Italian descent. I have an aunt like that, and I hate her guts

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