PB, let's not forget that Craig was part of the Tangelwood Boys, who were in their own right a bunch of troublemakers and criminals.
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/crimelaw/features/2527/

I could be wrong but I don't think Craig was entrenched with them

Craig was NEVER a part of that group. Ever. He grew up in the Northeast Yonkers/Scarsdale area and went to high school with some of those kids. He was friendly with them. But he was never one of them.

That NY Magazine article is one of the biggest piles of horseshit I've ever read. I rarely go this in depth on the boards, but the Mazzarellas sold them that bullshit hook, line and sinker. Half the guys mentioned in that article were put there for shock value. Patsy Parrello Jr. was never a part of them either. He was another nice kid. Grew up in Bronxville. His father would have strangled him if he was involved with those cowboys.

I hate the fucking expression "trust me on this." But you're going to have to. I was older than most of those guys, but I knew a few of them quite well. And half the kids mentioned in that article were put there because they shared their fathers' last names .

Calm down PB! I believe you. LOL How about Willie Marshall? Was he part of the Tangelwood Boys? I know he was one tough guy and then cooperated.

No, Willie wasn't one of them either.

And I'm calm. That article isn't your fault .

Even though Craig wasn't part of tanglewood boys he did hang out with them when they were terrorizing bars in the Bronx, I'm pretty sure that lead to an incident on Morris Park at a restaurant which lead to Craig getting shot, if i remember correctly in the hand

Craig got shot in '88 or '89, long before the Tanglewood guys began getting any press. And it had nothing to do with those kids. It was a personal matter between Craig and another kid. As it turned out the other kid's father was "important," too. So there was nothing they could do about it .

And I already stated that Craig grew up with them, hung out at Roosevelt with them in high school, and stayed friends with a couple of them. But he was never involved in any of their bullshit.

And I'm not sticking up for him because he's dead. He was a big boy and made his choices in life. I just hate to see misinformation get spread about anybody.

And welcome to the boards, pal .

Thank you for the welcome I have been reading for years, i figured first time posting might as well be about something i know, and i agree he really wasnt part of them and alot of their bullshit but he also hungout with them and had his own punk friends so he was def no angel

Yeah Craig and some of his friends came in the bar where he got shot busted it up, because they wouldn't buy is friend a drink for his birthday. Which lead to the bartender, the owner of the restaurants brother shooting him.

I know, and it's not something I've posted here before, but that's when Greg started pushing for Craig to get his button. Because his ego couldn't handle the fact that his son got shot and he was told, in no uncertain terms, to drop it. In his sick mind, he figured that if Craig had his button when he got shot, then he would have been able to do something about it. And that's when Greg started nagging the other guy to propose him.

Like you said, he was no Angel. But deep down he was a good kid, and he didn't belong in that life. And if not for his father's tremendous ego, and insistence that he get made, he might still be here today .

I would also assume it must have lead to tension between Greg and Louie Braciole, since he was the wiseguy who owned the restaurants cousin.

off topic.. PB, have you ever been to the restaurant where all that went down?

They got over it. Louie had a nephew (he's dead and I'd rather not post his name, and if you know it, I hope you won't either) who was pretty close to Greg, and they smoothed it over.

That's what people have to understand about that life. This isn't Sicily, it's not the movies, and you can't avenge everything. Sometimes you just have to work things out and let go, even if it means making nice with people who have tried to hurt you in the past.


Yes, but that's something else I'd rather not discuss here .