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Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: Five_Felonies] #779503
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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
it's funny how some people seriously believe that one person saying something off-colour is actually going to affect the nba brand as a whole.


Major sponsors did, in fact, suspend their investments in the Clippers and more were lined up to walk away, had not Siver acted accordingly. Yeah, the league would go on if he were still there, but his presence would be a needless embarrassing distraction. There's no room in sport for an owner who articulates such Jim Crow beliefs.

I'm kind of amazed that this needs to be stated.

Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: klydon1] #779505
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Originally Posted By: LittleNicky

Why are the two propositions you stated mutually exclusive? Why can't he both be racist and senile?

If you listen to other tapes, you can't help put come away thinking he suffers from a mix of old age and mild dementia.


Dementia is a medical diagnosis. It is irresponsible to rationalize his racism by speculating and assuming he's suffering from dementia when your sole knowledge is what you've heard. It seems you're trying to create a conveniently self-serving reality to defend him.


Go listen to the tapes and come away with any other impression. He's an old crackpot that is at best low-functioning and at worst has the beginning stages of dementia. Dementia is not a hard diagnosis, rather its subjective and factors based. Then again, you don't spend all day around these people and have any clue.

There was zero rationalization given if you actual bothered to read the post. But this is not a serious substantive debate, merely self-righteous howling and outrage to make people feel better about themselves.


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: klydon1] #779506
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Originally Posted By: getthesenets
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Modern NBA is a global brand with players from, and fanbase in...all four corners of the planet. Sterling is a pariah to the NBA brand. Silver did what he thought he had to do to protect the brand.The other owners will vote to remove Sterling in the best interest of the league,regardless of their personal feelings toward him or how this has played out.



You hit the nail on the head.

For others to suggest that Sterling's comments were just "gibberish" and didn't hurt anybody is absurd. He clearly and dispassionately expressed his repulsion concerning Blacks attending his team's games and associating with his mistress. The NBA has reached unparalleled global popularity, based in no small measure upon diversity and inclusion. His presence, if Silver allowed it to continue, would damage the league's credibility and marketability.


Who was substantively hurt? Some marketing company somewhere? The league theoretically from some bad PR?

Now compare this to the overt acts like his long standing housing discrimination cases or the public beating of his son (and his later suicide). Or compare it the cast of creeps the NBA employs as players. People are hurt in those cases. Real people. Not marketing companies. Nobody is crying tonight because some old crackpot was recorded with his prostitute.

Drop the moralistic shit. This is about PR. It's not about Jim Crow or racism or real offenses. If it was, they would have done something after the discrimination suits decades ago.

Last edited by LittleNicky; 05/21/14 06:32 PM.

Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: LittleNicky] #779507
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Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
Dementia is not a hard diagnosis, rather its subjective and factors based. Then again, you don't spend all day around these people and have any clue.



You're wrong, Doctor. My father presently suffers from dementia. My grandmother suffered thirteen years with it; an uncle and two aunts died in the past two years, and another aunt has it.

There is no reason to jump to the conclusion that Sterling has it (in any of its forms)when you don't know him and your knowledge is limited to what was presented through media.

Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: klydon1] #779509
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
Dementia is not a hard diagnosis, rather its subjective and factors based. Then again, you don't spend all day around these people and have any clue.



You're wrong, Doctor. My father presently suffers from dementia. My grandmother suffered thirteen years with it; an uncle and two aunts died in the past two years, and another aunt has it.

There is no reason to jump to the conclusion that Sterling has it (in any of its forms)when you don't know him and your knowledge is limited to what was presented through media.


Passed through the media? I listened to the unmediated tapes. I know you think being pedantic is fun, but actually go listen and come away with the impression that this individual is even marginally functioning.

Even Barbara Walters came away with this impression and stated so publicly.

But of course, I am sure you want to evaluate the man's personal medical records.

Last edited by LittleNicky; 05/21/14 06:39 PM.

Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: pizzaboy] #779645
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Five_Felonies!!!!! LMAO very well said... I can't even PRETEND to like the whole "meet my third wife" mentality... you want to see dementia ... put me in bed with an old fart... if he got too close I'd roll over on his ass fully clothed with an ice pick Sharon stone style... even before the "O" face was CONSIDERED...

Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: pizzaboy] #779664
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Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: pizzaboy] #779727
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I liked what Mark Cuban said. Spot on.


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Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: IvyLeague] #779788
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
I liked what Mark Cuban said. Spot on.

Talk about political correctness run amok. The guy went out of his way to mention sketchy looking White people and sketchy looking Black people in the same sentence, and the media still jumped on him. I guess if you're White you're no longer allowed to make reference to Black people and the word "hoodie" in the same sentence. Now I think Mark Cuban is a bit of a show-off and a lout for a host of other reasons, but he didn't do anything wrong here.

And just for the record, if I'm at an ATM at 2 in the morning and a White guy with tattoos on his face starts walking toward me, I'm walking the other way. And yes, if I'm at that same ATM at 2 in the morning, and a Black guy with his hoodie pulled over his eyes starts walking toward me, I'm walking the other way. And any menatally capable person who says otherwise is lying through their politically correct teeth.


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Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: pizzaboy] #779790
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thats why i try to stay away from those ATM's at 2 am in Hunts Point. panic


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Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: cheech] #779791
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Originally Posted By: cheech
thats why i try to stay away from those ATM's at 2 am in Hunts Point. panic

Nothing good happens at 2 am. Especially at Hunts Point lol.


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Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: pizzaboy] #779792
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mark cuban has proven that he can make statement like that and not get looked at sideways

donald sterling has proven that he shouldn't be allowed to profit off black people

if he has all white players then he should be able to keep his team

Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: cookcounty] #779793
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
mark cuban has proven that he can make statement like that and not get looked at sideways

We're in agreement there.


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Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: pizzaboy] #781275
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba...s-sale/9788985/

ooops don, looks like i was completely right. Didn't take a genius to figure this one out.


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: LittleNicky] #781276
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Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba...s-sale/9788985/

ooops don, looks like i was completely right. Didn't take a genius to figure this one out.

Good call, Nicky smile.


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Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: pizzaboy] #781282
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
mark cuban has proven that he can make statement like that and not get looked at sideways

We're in agreement there.


That's because he's a Pittsburgh boy! Skill.


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Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: pizzaboy] #781475
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
I liked what Mark Cuban said. Spot on.

Talk about political correctness run amok. The guy went out of his way to mention sketchy looking White people and sketchy looking Black people in the same sentence, and the media still jumped on him. I guess if you're White you're no longer allowed to make reference to Black people and the word "hoodie" in the same sentence. Now I think Mark Cuban is a bit of a show-off and a lout for a host of other reasons, but he didn't do anything wrong here.

And just for the record, if I'm at an ATM at 2 in the morning and a White guy with tattoos on his face starts walking toward me, I'm walking the other way. And yes, if I'm at that same ATM at 2 in the morning, and a Black guy with his hoodie pulled over his eyes starts walking toward me, I'm walking the other way. And any menatally capable person who says otherwise is lying through their politically correct teeth.


Just asking, here PB, do you frequent your ATM at 2 in the morning often?


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Re: NBA Owner's Racist Rant [Re: dontomasso] #781480
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Just asking, here PB, do you frequent your ATM at 2 in the morning often?

lol lol

I honestly can't remember the last time I used an ATM at all! lol lol


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