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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: Faithful1] #729669
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Originally Posted By: Faithful1
If anyone is interested in a great Asian-style buffet I have to recommend Royal Buffet in Hoffman Estates. Haven't been there for a while, but was worth drive last time I was in the Chicago area. The best pizza I tried there was the Pizzeria Uno on Ohio.

Pizzeria Uno is good but there's much better places to go in Chicago.

Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: Faithful1] #729670
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Originally Posted By: Faithful1
If anyone is interested in a great Asian-style buffet I have to recommend Royal Buffet in Hoffman Estates. Haven't been there for a while, but was worth drive last time I was in the Chicago area. The best pizza I tried there was the Pizzeria Uno on Ohio.
Faithful my man, Freddy's has that beaten too...:) lol In fact it very well may be the main overwhelming reason the Italians are still entrenched in Cicero lololol...:)

Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: Faithful1] #729672
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Next time I'm out there I'll make the trip to Freddy's. I looked on Yelp and it gets almost all five stars, except for a couple complaints about the long lines and other things that have nothing to do with the food. From the looks of it I might need to skip a few meals before going there to make room for the pizza, gnocchi and Italian ices. Nothing even close out here in Southern California without paying an arm and a leg.

Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: Faithful1] #729677
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Faithful the lines can be long at lunchtime but it's so worth it...The Italian Ice and gelato are out of this world as is the pizza but PLEASE make sure you try the arancini..One full block east of there at 1600 S Austin in Cicero is an old Capone hideout building. Supposedly there are tunnels that go under the streets that were built in case there were any police raids. Google it it's well known in the neighborhood but it has been on the History Channel too. It gives you an excuse to go gorge yourself all in the name of research lol...:) Another historical place over there is Sarno's Restaurant on Roosevelt just west of Central. Yes, it's owned by Fat Ass and his family but that's not why it's historic. It's historic as during Prohibition the place was a speakeasy/roadhouse and Capone's guys gunned down a State's Attorney named McSwiggin there...Lotsa history in that neighborhood...

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Lol @ uno & due. For tourists only. For deep dish Pequod's & MyPie are extremely difficult to beat.

For beefs, Joe Boston's, in the southwest corner of Da Patch.

Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: Faithful1] #729680
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Didn't mean to be rude, but gotta stay away from the beaten path, & stay far away from the downtown/gold coast/old town areas.

Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #780956
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Pretty sure Giancana gave nothing to Aiuppa who was very close to Joe Batters. Joey was established long before Giancana was a twinkle in Accardos eye. I'd be surprised if Momo was even included in board meetings with Accardo, Ricca, Aiuppa,LaPorte and other lower profile guys.Giancana was the face of the outfit but I don't believe he had any power. The only reason Aiuppa took over was all the other guys they put in either died or screwed up like Giancana. Aiuppa always had more power than Giancana.

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Originally Posted By: JoeEBrown
Pretty sure Giancana gave nothing to Aiuppa who was very close to Joe Batters. Joey was established long before Giancana was a twinkle in Accardos eye. I'd be surprised if Momo was even included in board meetings with Accardo, Ricca, Aiuppa,LaPorte and other lower profile guys.Giancana was the face of the outfit but I don't believe he had any power. The only reason Aiuppa took over was all the other guys they put in either died or screwed up like Giancana. Aiuppa always had more power than Giancana.



paul ricca had the power as long as he was capable

accardo was his number 2

giancana was "top boss" aka the fall guy

giancana out ranked aiupppa at one point, then auippa had the power

Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: Faithful1] #780976
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I don't think Giancana was ever the "fall guy". It was widely known at the time that he had some type of power-share with Ricca and Accardo. Aiuppa didn't have more power than Giancana until he left the country and all his guys started dying and going to prison.

Typically, it's one extreme or the other with Giancana - people either think he had way more power than he actually did or way less. In reality, it was somewhere in between.


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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: JoeEBrown] #781004
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Originally Posted By: JoeEBrown
Pretty sure Giancana gave nothing to Aiuppa who was very close to Joe Batters. Joey was established long before Giancana was a twinkle in Accardos eye. I'd be surprised if Momo was even included in board meetings with Accardo, Ricca, Aiuppa,LaPorte and other lower profile guys.Giancana was the face of the outfit but I don't believe he had any power. The only reason Aiuppa took over was all the other guys they put in either died or screwed up like Giancana. Aiuppa always had more power than Giancana.


This just simply isn't true. Aiuppa became the boss because he worked hard at it for years, rebuilding a viable power base in Cicero.

Also, the Outfit never had a fall guy. Everyone was largely on the same page. Sam giancana & Joey aiuppa were the same age. Aiuppa started his career as a crew boss in Cicero, which was a weak crew at that time compared to Taylor Street. So no, he didn't have more power than Giancana during that era.

Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: Faithful1] #781007
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Yeah, if Aiuppa was always the favored son then he wouldn't have been exiled to Cicero in the first place. Not to say that he was being punished but Cicero wasn't seen as a big moneymaking area when he took over there.

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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: Faithful1] #781026
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If you read the the FBI files on Aiuppa, a bunch of their informants basically told them he was low on the Outfit totem pole in the 50s. Funny to read considering where he would eventually end up twenty years later.

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Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: funkster] #781035
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Originally Posted By: funkster
If you read the the FBI files on Aiuppa, a bunch of their informants basically told them he was low on the Outfit totem pole in the 50s. Funny to read considering where he would eventually end up twenty years later.


Was getting ready to say about the same thing. Aiuppa was probably the last of the Capone-era gangsters. "Working hard" and perseverance likely got Aiuppa to the top. His FBI file is extensive and interesting. Most OC writers / historians do not, did not, consider him all that capable. I suppose he proved them wrong.

From all I've read, it was after Giancana went to Mexico that Aiuppa evolved. There were several short-term bosses who either died or went to prison before Aiuppa came on board as boss. I think it is fair to say there was a lack of qualified prospects for the position of boss after Giancana. But Aiuppa did evolve and secured the position.

A couple more points. If membership is indicative of effectiveness, one only needs to look at the members of Taylor St. Scary bunch of guys. Also, from all indications, these guys did work together for the benefit of the Outfit. No street wars, etc., like during the Capone days.

Giancana was powerful, Accardo was powerful, Aiuppa was powerful. All these guys had power. And, for most of the time, they worked together, effectively. No need to revisit the
"Most powerful "discussion; at least for me.

Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: Faithful1] #781037
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Funny thing is, I think someone actually referred to him as a nobody in 1957ish.

Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: Faithful1] #781071
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If they hadn't passed, Phil Alderisio and/or Sam Battaglia would have been the big bosses of the Outfit for many years, and the Outfit today could have a very different look to it. It may have even sank much quicker than it did.

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I think Turk would have been pretty high up there as well.

Re: Cicero Crew 1930s to 1970s [Re: Faithful1] #781215
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Ehh, maybe around the 90s. Who knows. But Battaglia & Alderisio actually were the top bosses in the Outfit. They just died before they could begin their reigns.

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