It's over for Kerry. He should concede. He's lost the popular vote and he's as near as dammit lost the electoral college. People like me may not like it but this was a referendum on Bush's leadership and he's won it, not by a huge gap but by a significant one. The people have voted and in a democracy we have to accept the outcome. I am always reminded of a quote from a local politician near where I live after he had been beaten at the polls. When asked for his reaction he said "The people have spoken...the bastards!!"

So may I be the first dangerous liberal to say congrats to AppleOnYa, ragginbull, Don Geoff, Double J, Don Cardi and the rest and commiserations to TIS, SaladBar,plaw and Don Ferro and the rest.

The Democrats need to accept that you now have four years to find a strong candidate or else we face the real nightmare scenario...President Cheney