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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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10/10/13 05:00 PM
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That being said, I'm not shocked at all by Ivy's comment. I've always suspected him of being a racist. Now it has been confirmed. Bravo, Ivy. I'm sure your God is proud to have you as a follower. You do realize, of course, that the allegation of being a "racist" coming from a liberal hack like yourself is virtually meaningless. You guys pretty much think all conservatives are racists deep down. That said, people who are familiar with me and my posts on these forums over the years know I'm not racist. If I was racist, I would have a problem with this guy simply because he is black. And that's not the case. It may be meaningless under normal circumstances, but then there was that whole "tree and rope" thing, and something about "sending these baboons back to the jungle." Angry or not, somebody doesn't just say something that blatantly racist without some deep seeded hate. Those were comments based solely on his being black. It's not that difficult to be angered by something, but not go on a racist rant. Unless you're racist.
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: XDCX]
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10/10/13 05:50 PM
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That being said, I'm not shocked at all by Ivy's comment. I've always suspected him of being a racist. Now it has been confirmed. Bravo, Ivy. I'm sure your God is proud to have you as a follower. You do realize, of course, that the allegation of being a "racist" coming from a liberal hack like yourself is virtually meaningless. You guys pretty much think all conservatives are racists deep down. That said, people who are familiar with me and my posts on these forums over the years know I'm not racist. If I was racist, I would have a problem with this guy simply because he is black. And that's not the case. It may be meaningless under normal circumstances, but then there was that whole "tree and rope" thing, and something about "sending these baboons back to the jungle." Angry or not, somebody doesn't just say something that blatantly racist without some deep seeded hate. Those were comments based solely on his being black. It's not that difficult to be angered by something, but not go on a racist rant. Unless you're racist. Everyone makes mistakes. Sometimes people say the wrong thing out of anger not because they believe in a particular concept. Ivy is many things, I don't agree with him on all of them, but I do not consider him a racist. Let's just forgive and forget and move on. Besides I think it would be more prudent to get back to the topic at hand
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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10/10/13 05:57 PM
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That being said, I'm not shocked at all by Ivy's comment. I've always suspected him of being a racist. Now it has been confirmed. Bravo, Ivy. I'm sure your God is proud to have you as a follower. You do realize, of course, that the allegation of being a "racist" coming from a liberal hack like yourself is virtually meaningless. You guys pretty much think all conservatives are racists deep down. That said, people who are familiar with me and my posts on these forums over the years know I'm not racist. If I was racist, I would have a problem with this guy simply because he is black. And that's not the case. It may be meaningless under normal circumstances, but then there was that whole "tree and rope" thing, and something about "sending these baboons back to the jungle." Angry or not, somebody doesn't just say something that blatantly racist without some deep seeded hate. Those were comments based solely on his being black. It's not that difficult to be angered by something, but not go on a racist rant. Unless you're racist. Everyone makes mistakes. Sometimes people say the wrong thing out of anger not because they believe in a particular concept. Ivy is many things, I don't agree with him on all of them, but I do not consider him a racist. Let's just forgive and forget and move on. Besides I think it would be more prudent to get back to the topic at hand Hate is hate a racist statement is a racist statement.
Last edited by F_white; 10/10/13 05:59 PM.
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: jace]
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10/10/13 06:48 PM
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There are many more similar attacks on the internet, and they are all African Muslims or Arabs in Europe attacking native citizens, not other way around. I don't wish to put up any more because they can drive people crazy. Rightfully so, It's terrible, but I don't wish to see people lose tempers and say something wrong. It does however tie in to the topic of this discussion. What is in that one video is just a small example of what is currently taking place in Europe.
That's actually not the case. There are a number of areas, regions or countries especially in Eastern and Southern Europe that have achieved quite a reputation for turning a blind eye to violent attacks against anyone considered to be foreign and/or insufficiently white. This includes not only Africans or Arabs but East and Central Asians, Roma and Turks. Russia and the former Soviet Republics probably have the worst current problems with right-wing nationalist/neo-nazi violence but Golden Dawn in Greece is doing its best to catch up. As was said, right is right, wrong is wrong and hate is hate.
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Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: F_white]
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10/10/13 07:10 PM
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Hate is hate a racist statement is a racist statement. That reminds me of a statement by Professor Tony Campolo of Eastern Pennsylvania University. During a speech he said something like, "A million people are starving everyday and you don't give a shit. What's worse, most of you are more concerned with the fact that I said 'shit' than the fact that a million people are starving to death." What Ivy said was wrong, but it's not unforgiveable. He was also condemning and act that we all agree was not only wrong, but harmful. Perhaps the black aggressor was a racist, which is part of the reason he punched a white girl. He caused harm and injured someone. Ivy injured no one. Let's have a sense of perspective, and if you want, let it be a "teachable moment."
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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10/11/13 02:18 AM
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We should get back to the topic at hand. I concur with faithful, ivy is many things and I don't agree with him on many subjects but one thing I don't consider him is a racist. Lets move on and get back to the topic at hand The really ironic part is, the thread began about immigrant Muslims taking over Europe. I don't know what religion the guy in the video is below, but he's obviously an immigrant. And immigrants are fine. But this piece of shit - and many like him - think they can come immigrate to another country and act like this without any worry of serious punishment or repercussion. And they're often right because the liberal, PC-driven mindset coddles them and overlooks this stuff because they're so concerned with not coming across as "racist." Their priorities, and what really pisses them off, are totally back-asswards.
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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10/11/13 10:31 AM
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Getting back to the topic at hand, what has to happen is a reformation of the Muslim religion much like the reformation of Christianity in the 1500's. Interestingly the Muslim faithh is about 1500 years old, so if past is prologue we will see a reformation from the exrtremists. This will happen on several fronts. In Eurpope, eventually, where will be more assimilation and then interfaith marriages. That will dilute the extreme doctrines of Islam. In places like Pakistan and even Afghanistan, there are changes happening, albeit much slower. That little girl who got shot simply for going to school has become a worldwide celebrity and a touchstone for Muslims who want change. In Iran, apparently the people arre way more secular than the theocrats who run the country, and it Saudi Arabia, there would be huge changes if the regime there did not rule with an iron grim, which by the way will not last forever.
The big picture is very simple. Once the masses in the Muslim world acquire enough wealth and stability in their lives, they will reject a lot of the craziness. Once you have something to lose, perspectives change.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: klydon1]
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10/11/13 11:18 AM
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Imagine no religion
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky....
Happy belated birthday to John Lennon, who would've turned 73
yesterday. Oh yes, Happy Birthday John, RIP. AND shortly after his 40th birthday (Dec. 8, 1980), poor guy was gunned down.  On one of my NY visits, I stopped in a gift shop and saw a JL shirt hanging on the wall, with pic of him wearing a NYC shirt and sunglasses on the front and "Give Peace A Chance" written on the back.. I had to get that shirt.  TIS After posting I saw title of this thread and I thought I replied in the wrong thread.  Had to double check. Anyway, sorry off topic. Just call it a tension breaker. LOL Please proceed....... 
Last edited by The Italian Stallionette; 10/11/13 11:52 AM.
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: dontomasso]
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10/12/13 02:00 AM
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Getting back to the topic at hand, what has to happen is a reformation of the Muslim religion much like the reformation of Christianity in the 1500's. Interestingly the Muslim faithh is about 1500 years old, so if past is prologue we will see a reformation from the exrtremists. This will happen on several fronts. In Eurpope, eventually, where will be more assimilation and then interfaith marriages. That will dilute the extreme doctrines of Islam. In places like Pakistan and even Afghanistan, there are changes happening, albeit much slower. That little girl who got shot simply for going to school has become a worldwide celebrity and a touchstone for Muslims who want change. In Iran, apparently the people arre way more secular than the theocrats who run the country, and it Saudi Arabia, there would be huge changes if the regime there did not rule with an iron grim, which by the way will not last forever.
The big picture is very simple. Once the masses in the Muslim world acquire enough wealth and stability in their lives, they will reject a lot of the craziness. Once you have something to lose, perspectives change. Right on DT. Even in a country like Egypt that according to polls more people are for Sharia law than other countries, you see Muslim brotherhood winning the election with slim numbers, passing a constitution based on Sharia law, but then have people demonstrating a year later to overthrow that system. When it can't even survive in a Muslim nation, it's really beyond me how can it survive in Europe.
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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10/12/13 02:20 AM
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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10/12/13 10:23 AM
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Imagine no religion
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky....
Happy belated birthday to John Lennon, who would've turned 73 yesterday. He's singing a different tune now. Lets not go there ivy, especially with John Lennon
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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10/12/13 10:23 AM
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Imagine no religion
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky....
Happy belated birthday to John Lennon, who would've turned 73 yesterday. He's singing a different tune now. Ivy should be removed from the boards.
Last edited by dontomasso; 10/12/13 10:25 AM.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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10/12/13 12:02 PM
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I don't understand why its ok to push the gay agenda on people but when someone has a frim belief in the lord and adresses it he an ass-hole and is trying to "shove his beliefs down our throats". All of you pro-gays are hippocrates and are doing the same shit. This thread isn't about that so take it somewhere else SgW -- we all know you are in the closet, and frankly don't care.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: dontomasso]
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10/12/13 01:49 PM
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I don't understand why its ok to push the gay agenda on people but when someone has a frim belief in the lord and adresses it he an ass-hole and is trying to "shove his beliefs down our throats". All of you pro-gays are hippocrates and are doing the same shit. This thread isn't about that so take it somewhere else SgW -- we all know you are in the closet, and frankly don't care. Good job, even if I am it still doesnt change the fact that gays and bible thumpers been jaming there beliefs down peoples throats for awhile now, and if you disagree with them then your a Satanist or gay basher and thats getting old. Now my statement shows I've tryed to be open minded and look at both sides of thr fence but sucking d*** and believing in a higher power are just different IMHO, and I really don't care I'm just sick of reading that if you you don't approve of the gay lifestyle, then your a bigot, in da closest, or just an ass-hole. That's bullshit
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: klydon1]
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10/12/13 02:28 PM
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All of you pro-gays are hippocrates and are doing the same shit. Hippocrates was the father of medicine. Even back then Kly people confused his name with the noun. For awhile he considered changing his name to Bob.
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Re: Is Islam taking over Europe?
[Re: Dellacroce]
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10/14/13 01:49 PM
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Dontomasso has Blinked!!! You are confusing blinking with showing respect for SC and the moderators.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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