Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: pmac
its not dead. 3 yrs ago they rounded up 127 mob guys. you no any day there gonna do it again. 7 yrs ago they rounded up 70 gambinos who are probably stronger today. shit the biggest 1 before that was the patriarca 24 guys in 1990. see the pattern. its not going away. yeah a lot of members won't be 100 percent Italian but people still want to belong to something besides a elk club.

No one said it was dead or going away anytime soon. But no offense, pmac. I think you're a good guy. But you're not Italian American and you're not from New York where you can see what's happened to these neighborhoods and the recruiting pool. It will never be the same because, by and large, Italian Americans don't need it anymore.

Maybe up there in New England, where there's still a lot of White poverty. But not down here. Italian Americans in New York City are among the most upwardly mobile ethnic groups in the entire country, so why turn to crime?

And sure, there are people out there who are just plain old criminal minded. But circumstances are what drive most people to crime. And circumstances for Italian Americans are better than ever. And that's a good thing smile



While every LCN family has decline due to attrition (many of them eradicated all together), the NY families have been the least affected. Obviously because they were much larger in size to begin with and still have the biggest recruiting pool, relatively speaking. As said in the recent Wall Street Journal article on the mob said, while their membership numbers are lower than they were years ago, it's not significantly so. It seems the 5 families have been able to keep their numbers relatively stable over the last 20 years at least; with the Genovese and Gambinos around 200 each and the others around 100 or so each. Attrition is more readily seen in the handful of small remaining families outside New York, who have a much smaller recruiting pool. I expect the day will come when the LCN will only exist within the extended NY metropolitan area.

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