Originally Posted By: pmac
its not dead. 3 yrs ago they rounded up 127 mob guys. you no any day there gonna do it again. 7 yrs ago they rounded up 70 gambinos who are probably stronger today. shit the biggest 1 before that was the patriarca 24 guys in 1990. see the pattern. its not going away. yeah a lot of members won't be 100 percent Italian but people still want to belong to something besides a elk club.

No one said it was dead or going away anytime soon. But no offense, pmac. I think you're a good guy. But you're not Italian American and you're not from New York where you can see what's happened to these neighborhoods and the recruiting pool. It will never be the same because, by and large, Italian Americans don't need it anymore.

Maybe up there in New England, where there's still a lot of White poverty. But not down here. Italian Americans in New York City are among the most upwardly mobile ethnic groups in the entire country, so why turn to crime?

And sure, there are people out there who are just plain old criminal minded. But circumstances are what drive most people to crime. And circumstances for Italian Americans are better than ever. And that's a good thing smile


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