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Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: TheMechanic] #768009
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Cook, why is your self-esteemed tied to prosperity of the chicago outfit or black criminal gangs? It worse, and sicker variant, of people that do that with sports teams. Except these guys are worthless garbage that kill people that you root for based on bizarre sort of racial or locale nationalism.


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: LittleNicky] #768019
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Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
Cook, why is your self-esteemed tied to prosperity of the chicago outfit or black criminal gangs? It worse, and sicker variant, of people that do that with sports teams. Except these guys are worthless garbage that kill people that you root for based on bizarre sort of racial or locale nationalism.



Good post


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Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: TheMechanic] #768027
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Pizzaboy...pick your arguements, an old saying...never wrestle with a chimney sweep, you always end up dirty. Ignore bullshit and keep posting the good stuff like you always do

Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: cookcounty] #768050
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
@pizzaboy


that type of rhetoric will only hold u back in life

if you're white and mad at black people then you don't understand "your" country



He's not mad at you lol he's trying to knock a little intelligence into your head. Seriously a bag of rocks has more brain activity than you


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Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: NorthJeresyLife] #768066
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Originally Posted By: NorthJeresyLife
BTw. "fat jack" is jackie dinorscio, the guy who the movie find me guilty was based on.


Is this the same DiNorsico's that were in Bob Delaney's book?
It's been a while since I read the book, might have to go look for it and give it another read.

Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: cookcounty] #768094
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
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that type of rhetoric will only hold u back in life

if you're white and mad at black people then you don't understand "your" country


Stop. Please. I like Black people fine. I just don't like you.

There's a marked difference between calling out one member of an ethnic group and attacking that group as a whole. And if I crossed a line while going after you, then I apologize to the other Black posters on this board. But my track record here, and in my actual life, speaks for itself.

My best friend for over thirty years is a Black man. I have two adult Black Godchildren who still call me Uncle. And as an Italian American, other Italian Americans who walk around acting like Vinny Barbarino drive me up a fucking wall. But such unfortunates do exist. Some people just have to live down to the stereotype. We have our Vinny Barbarinos, the Black community has you.

But when the unintelligent are backed into a corner about race, they ALWAYS play the race card. Whether they're White, Black, Asian or Latino.

Originally Posted By: fergie
Pizzaboy...pick your arguements, an old saying...never wrestle with a chimney sweep, you always end up dirty. Ignore bullshit and keep posting the good stuff like you always do

Thank you, Fergie. That's nice of you to say. And I'm going to take your advice. I'm done with him.

Have a nice life, Cook.


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Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: TheMechanic] #768130
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@pizzaboy


u mean to tell me that you're done following me around the messageboard?

i like the age old "i have black people as friends" line

i don't give half a fuck about u or if u did charity work in africa

Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: TheMechanic] #768132
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Moe just move back to Africa figga deal what im sayin jo, you want a white step daddy b.

Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: cookcounty] #768171
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
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u mean to tell me that you're done following me around the messageboard?

i like the age old "i have black people as friends" line

i don't give half a fuck about u or if u did charity work in africa




The racism card you play is as old as the "black friends" line which in PB's case he happens to be a good man and sincere. You on the other hand want to blame everything on everyone else, including whites in this country. Well hate to break it to ya but whites and every other ethnic group you think discriminates against the "brotha's" didn't make you too dumber than a second coat of paint. It's like what George Carlin said "People are fuckin dumb" and you are at the very top of that list


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Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: TheMechanic] #768177
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u need george carlin to let you know that people are fucking dumb?

i don't have to play a racism card

yall show your true colors following me around the messageboard

Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: pizzaboy] #768178
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
@pizzaboy


that type of rhetoric will only hold u back in life

if you're white and mad at black people then you don't understand "your" country


Stop. Please. I like Black people fine. I just don't like you.

There's a marked difference between calling out one member of an ethnic group and attacking that group as a whole. And if I crossed a line while going after you, then I apologize to the other Black posters on this board. But my track record here, and in my actual life, speaks for itself.

My best friend for over thirty years is a Black man. I have two adult Black Godchildren who still call me Uncle. And as an Italian American, other Italian Americans who walk around acting like Vinny Barbarino drive me up a fucking wall. But such unfortunates do exist. Some people just have to live down to the stereotype. We have our Vinny Barbarinos, the Black community has you.

But when the unintelligent are backed into a corner about race, they ALWAYS play the race card. Whether they're White, Black, Asian or Latino.

Originally Posted By: fergie
Pizzaboy...pick your arguements, an old saying...never wrestle with a chimney sweep, you always end up dirty. Ignore bullshit and keep posting the good stuff like you always do

Thank you, Fergie. That's nice of you to say. And I'm going to take your advice. I'm done with him.

Have a nice life, Cook.


Pizzaboy you are one of the most respected and informative posters on this forum you don't need to explain yourself to nobody.

And I'm certain the majority of posters on this board woiuld agree with that.


'So I say, “Live and let live.” That’s my motto. “Live and let live.” Anyone who can’t go along with that, take him outside and shoot the motherfucker. It’s a simple philosophy, but it’s always worked in our family.'

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Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: TheMechanic] #768287
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Toning it down a notch and going back to prison stories, I have a friend who was a Correction officer at a maxi security prison in New York and he said he will take mob guys any day of the week over thugs as the mobsters are respectful toward guards and rarely cause any trouble.

Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: TheMechanic] #768290
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Whats the big deal about gotti getting beat up? Everybody on this forum acts like they've never took a beating before. Lot of talk and no show on here

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Thats a lie
Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: TheMechanic] #768293
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Yes. Gotti took a beating. So what. He was an old(ish) man at the time.

No matter how tough you are, there is always someone tougher out there.

I don't get in fights but the one time I took a beating, I was being scratched by a chick and while I was gentlemanly not putting my hands on her, the guy she was with opportunely sucker punched me in the face.

So lesson 1 is don't let women assault you and lesson 2, if someone is squaring up to you and talking crap, don't take too long to analyse the situation like I did. Just incapacitate them straight away.

Can't be diplomatic. There is no honour in fighting anymore. Like there was in the old days (probably).


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Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: Moe_Tilden] #768295
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Yes. Gotti took a beating. So what. He was an old(ish) man at the time.

No matter how tough you are, there is always someone tougher out there.

I don't get in fights but the one time I took a beating, I was being scratched by a chick and while I was gentlemanly not putting my hands on her, the guy she was with opportunely sucker punched me in the face.

So lesson 1 is don't let women assault you and lesson 2, if someone is squaring up to you and talking crap, don't take too long to analyse the situation like I did. Just incapacitate them straight away.

Can't be diplomatic. There is no honour in fighting anymore. Like there was in the old days (probably).


No shame in that but the praise he got for whacking McBratney was overblown. What a lovely man he was you think Gotti could have taken him on his own?

No chance. It took four of them to drag him across one side of the bar to the other I maintain McBratney would have wiped Gotti's clock if they were standing toe to toe.


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Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: bobbyvegas] #768313
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Originally Posted By: bobbyvegas
Whats the big deal about gotti getting beat up? Everybody on this forum acts like they've never took a beating before. Lot of talk and no show on here




because he totally provoked his own ass whooping by talking tough

he didn't realize that he was very very far away from NY

Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: RunCity] #768354
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Originally Posted By: RunCity
The guy was transferred out to a distant prison for his own safety, no? I'm pretty sure if he stayed in that prison or any N.E prison he would have gotten touched.


Since it seemed no one responded I'll give a stab(no pun intended lol)

Yes he was.... As the Aryan Brotherhood assigned a hit on the black guy since Gotti came to them looking for revenge over the attack.

Prison authorities learned of this and transferred the dude out for his own protection.

I heard the guy was mentally disturbed but I don't think the man who attacked Gotti was a part of any gang.

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Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: cookcounty] #768359
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
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u need george carlin to let you know that people are fucking dumb?

i don't have to play a racism card

yall show your true colors following me around the messageboard


Lol what are you on? I don't need George Carlin to tell me you're a complete tool. You give it away yourself cook by living, breathing, and speaking. I don't give a damn if your black, but I do give a damn when you act like an asshole and a troll. But I will follow PB in not engaging you any longer.

So long chump.


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Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #768422
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
@joeschmo


u need george carlin to let you know that people are fucking dumb?

i don't have to play a racism card

yall show your true colors following me around the messageboard


Lol what are you on? I don't need George Carlin to tell me you're a complete tool. You give it away yourself cook by living, breathing, and speaking. I don't give a damn if your black, but I do give a damn when you act like an asshole and a troll. But I will follow PB in not engaging you any longer.

So long chump.




you mean you're done following me around the messageboard?

don't do me any favors

Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: TheMechanic] #768492
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Cook do you enjoy fighting with everyone on here? Gets old after a while.

Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: LittleNicky] #768527
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Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
Cook, why is your self-esteemed tied to prosperity of the chicago outfit or black criminal gangs? It worse, and sicker variant, of people that do that with sports teams. Except these guys are worthless garbage that kill people that you root for based on bizarre sort of racial or locale nationalism.


This

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am i fighting with everyone or do people comment on posts that ain't directed to them?

Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: TheMechanic] #768550
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Fighting with people or people 'commenting on posts':

You say Potato I say Potatoe.


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Re: Prison stories about mobsters [Re: cookcounty] #776188
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
john gotti told somebody to "get the fuck outta the way n-word" while in marion, il

the next day the dapper don got his ass beat in a one on one fight

allegedly on orders of jeff fort


I'm surprised he just got his ass beat up. Either way he's total trash and deserved what he got for being racist.

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The only reason why that black dude beat up john gotti was because gotti is an old man and black dude beat up an old man that can barely fight. That's real tough beating on an old dude that can barely get around.

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Originally Posted By: botz
The only reason why that black dude beat up john gotti was because gotti is an old man and black dude beat up an old man that can barely fight. That's real tough beating on an old dude that can barely get around.

I agree with you in principle, Botz. But you know what? He mouthed off to the wrong guy and he got bested. It happens. And Black guys in stir for life just don't give a fuck if you're a goombah with a social club on 101st Avenue. Prison's a whole new ballgame today.


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Not speaking as a mob fan or anything like that but black dudes like that in general like to beat up on old folks and women or jump 1 person in groups of 5 or 10. But when they try to fight someone that will fight back they back down.

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Originally Posted By: SEAN_SOUTH
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Yes. Gotti took a beating. So what. He was an old(ish) man at the time.

No matter how tough you are, there is always someone tougher out there.

I don't get in fights but the one time I took a beating, I was being scratched by a chick and while I was gentlemanly not putting my hands on her, the guy she was with opportunely sucker punched me in the face.

So lesson 1 is don't let women assault you and lesson 2, if someone is squaring up to you and talking crap, don't take too long to analyse the situation like I did. Just incapacitate them straight away.

Can't be diplomatic. There is no honour in fighting anymore. Like there was in the old days (probably).


No shame in that but the praise he got for whacking McBratney was overblown. What a lovely man he was you think Gotti could have taken him on his own?

No chance. It took four of them to drag him across one side of the bar to the other I maintain McBratney would have wiped Gotti's clock if they were standing toe to toe.


The thing about most of these LCN guys is that they are basically just average Joe's with a lot of organizational muscle behind them; meaning, they are powerful and feared because they are part of a violent criminal organization that has been in existence for nearly 100 years. But you take the average mob guy out of his element, and what do you have: just a guy. A lot of people think that being a mobster in and of itself magically raises a guy's 'tough guy' factor ten-fold; that an out of shape, middle-aged, untrained 'wise guy' will all of a sudden turn into a ninja throwing kicks and leg sweeps when in a physical confrontation.
These guys get by on intimidation and fear, but most of the time, that intimidation and fear isn't because of some great fighting skill or physical toughness.
I think your average street gang member is probably a bigger physical threat than most of your average made guys, mainly because they tend to be younger, fitter, and more volatile.
Sitting around in social clubs, drinking espresso and smoking cigars, isn't good preparation for fighting. But of course there are some strong, capable guys in the mob, as there are in any criminal organization, but I doubt those guys are the norm.

And Gotti was so used to being the 'big man' and barking out orders that he probably still had that 'boss mentality' where his word was KING.

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Lol street gang members sit around and smoke pot on a daily basis most of em are out of shape or on steroids.

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To be young and muscular doesn't mean you know how to fight. Actually a lot of guys taking steroids and trying to look muscular and tough aren't good fighters, because they lack of confidence in themselves. Those guys are used to treath, to break bones if they have to, so I guess they can fight...

For a fight, you don't need necessarily muscles, you need balls.

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