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Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti
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07/18/13 07:43 PM
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Anyone have any info on him and why he was taken out? Seems like the FBI has someone that has said Anthony Calabrese was the shooter, but he hasn't been indicted. Was he a soldier in the Cicero crew? Who could have ordered it? Marcello? http://blogs.suntimes.com/mob/2008/01/the_feds_on_the_hatchs_demise.html
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Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti
[Re: Chicago]
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07/18/13 08:04 PM
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The Hatch was a made guy in the Cicero Crew. He ran a franchise in partnership with Tonny Zizzo before he went away in the 1990's. They had soldier/associates working under them.
He got killed because there was not strong leadership at the Top of the Cicero Crew in 2001. Marcello was still in jail and had been gone for a long time. Sarno was beginning his internal feud against Chiaramonti & Zizzo. Marcello was not there for leadership and protection. Zizzo and Chiaramonti belonged to Marcello. Sarno belonged to The other Capo faction within Cicero which was headed by Ferriola and then Infelice. If Chiaramonti and Zizzo were killed by Sarno, why didn't Marcello have Sarno killed?
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Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti
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07/18/13 09:16 PM
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The Hatch was a made guy in the Cicero Crew. He ran a franchise in partnership with Tonny Zizzo before he went away in the 1990's. They had soldier/associates working under them.
He got killed because there was not strong leadership at the Top of the Cicero Crew in 2001. Marcello was still in jail and had been gone for a long time. Sarno was beginning his internal feud against Chiaramonti & Zizzo. Marcello was not there for leadership and protection. Zizzo and Chiaramonti belonged to Marcello. Sarno belonged to The other Capo faction within Cicero which was headed by Ferriola and then Infelice. The more I think about it, Chicago, you're right. Sarno was probably acting on behalf of Inendino -- not Marcello. It was Inendino solidifying things through Sarno with Marcello unable to do anything about it as he was incarcerated
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Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti
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07/18/13 10:04 PM
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It was definitely an internal thing within Cicero. Somebody then got 26th St to also support them and then the moves were made against those people. Zizzo and the Hatch were close. Zizzo was the Gambling type of guy and The Hatch was the Loan Sharking type of guy, a very typical partnership among made guys running a franchise. They both belonged to Carlisi, Marcello. Within the Crew of the Top Boss, there are men who are direct with him and then there is a Capo who also has the other made men in the crew.
Example #1: Taylor St., Giancana & 2 Capos, Battaglia & Bucciere. There was no underboss of the Outfit. Giancana refused Cerone ( The Cheapskate)
Example #2: Cicero, Auippa & Capo Ferriola
Example #3: Elmwood Park, Cerone & Capo DiFronzo
With Carlisi dying and Marcello being gone for so long, I believe tension erupted within Cicero between Sarno, Chiaramonti ( Who also pissed off Caruso 26th St with his mouth) and Zizzo.
If You'll notice ONCE AGAIN, Elmwood Park sat back and did nothing.
Last edited by Chicago; 07/18/13 10:06 PM.
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Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti
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07/19/13 01:03 AM
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It was definitely an internal thing within Cicero. Somebody then got 26th St to also support them and then the moves were made against those people. Zizzo and the Hatch were close. Zizzo was the Gambling type of guy and The Hatch was the Loan Sharking type of guy, a very typical partnership among made guys running a franchise. They both belonged to Carlisi, Marcello. Within the Crew of the Top Boss, there are men who are direct with him and then there is a Capo who also has the other made men in the crew.
Example #1: Taylor St., Giancana & 2 Capos, Battaglia & Bucciere. There was no underboss of the Outfit. Giancana refused Cerone ( The Cheapskate)
Example #2: Cicero, Auippa & Capo Ferriola
Example #3: Elmwood Park, Cerone & Capo DiFronzo
With Carlisi dying and Marcello being gone for so long, I believe tension erupted within Cicero between Sarno, Chiaramonti ( Who also pissed off Caruso 26th St with his mouth) and Zizzo.
If You'll notice ONCE AGAIN, Elmwood Park sat back and did nothing. if ricca was consigliere/senior advisor and he had the real power than he was #1 so in essence giancana was underboss with accardo basically being ricca's shield
Last edited by cookcounty; 07/19/13 01:04 AM.
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Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti
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05/02/14 09:20 AM
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The bosses always gave a lot of leeway when it came to capos running their own territory. Exactly my thinking. If either had affected EP's interests, I'm sure something would have been done about it to exert some influence in the decision. I know people think Sarno was a big shot at the time, but wasn't he already reporting to Jimmy I? Snakes, any idea if that clip of Jimmy I threatening the guy who owed him money on the infamous wiretap was used in his conviction?
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Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti
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05/02/14 02:44 PM
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Good point. You also had Bellavia locked up.
I know it's been debated ad nauseam, but I wonder if Jimmy I and Solly running things, with their street pedigree, if they aren't "setting things right on the street" a la Marcello talking about doing so prior to his FS conviction.
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