In Casso's book, he discusses how Testa/Senter were recruited to whack Roy DeMeo, in exchange for getting straightened out. And Gas describes how the hit went down....summarized in one of my previous posts above.

In the D'Arco book, he mentions Senter and Joey Testa getting made in the same ceremony as Joe D'Arco- Al's son. Later, when Al is the acting boss, he presided over a ceremony, where Patty Testa was made. When Vic and Gas were fugitives, Patty Testa was involved with relaying messages from the bosses to the capos, and even supplied homes for meetings to take place. Nothing earth shattering, though. It seems that Senter/Testas were mentioned mostly for the sake of name dropping.

ftp://24.13.148.239/ST3320/Books/Collections/PDF/Criminology/Gaspipe%20-%20Confessions%20of%20a%20Mafia%20Boss%20(2008)%20-%20Philip%20Carlo.pdf

Book in its entirety is here.

im surprised casso and a lot of other lifers arnt trying to publish books to put out there side of the story. a lot of black gansters are wrtitting in books in jail, figure gaspipe wants to clear the air on a lot of stuff or maybe he regrets not taken that 23 yr plea were he would have been out any day and probably boss of the family. regrets regrets.

I think if he took that deal he would have ended up getting whacked upon release. Casso isn't the type to accept the power shifting back to the Bronx. And while he was away, so much of his treachery came to light through other informants. The guys in power now literally hate him, and it's not just because he flipped.

NO WAY the current administration would work with him. NO WAY Casso accepts being broken. They would have had to kill him (even today when murders are rare),

im surprised crea didn't learn from the chin how to have the 3 top guys spread out but theres no press release for who his ub or consign is. but chin had bobby manna the power of new jersey and a guy uptown or down town you know. but after going threw the likes of amuso and casso I see why. tony ducks had a strangle hold on long island you never hear much about that faction of the luchese like the Bronx guys or jersey crew.

You just answered your own question. No press release means he's doing something right. Just because Capeci and the Feds don't know who his underboss and consigliere are, doesn't mean he doesn't have them .

@ older New York based gangsterbb users

In his book about Casso, Carlo said that Irish women put out to Casso easier than Italian women.

Is this true? I thought back in the day Irish women were like choir girls.

Moe wtf are u even talking about

Sometimes, I confuse even myself.

Believe me, Irish girls aren't now and weren't then like choir girls.
Speaking of Casso, does anyone know his current status?? I had read, a while ago and probably on here that he was ill and may have been transferred out of the maxi lockup in Colorado to a place in Minn. True ????

Hey bigboy you are right Casso is in Minneapolis at a prison hospital. I think he has cancer or something. Of course having cancer is better than being in ADMAX, IMO.

A lot of them seem to get extremely ill once they get to prison; LoCascio, Massino, Casso, Gravano, Salerno......... Gotti of course died of cancer in 2002 at a relatively young age. Baratta had a lot of dental problems which are minor in comparison.

Anyone know how Amuso and Persico are getting on health wise?

I have heard that Persico has been doing pretty well health wise, especially for his age. Overall he is healthy. I heard Amuso has heart and hypertension problems.

I heard even Christy Tick is doing pretty well and he has been locked up since the 1980s.

Any thoughts on whether the Luccheses still throw Christy Tic's family money on any regular basis?
I'm not suggesting for one minute he has any title other than soldier, but he did stand up as consig and take life for the family. Surely this is worth his actual family getting a little taken care of?

I am no expert but I do not think Christy would be getting anything from the family at this point. He was pretty well off when he went to prison so I would think his family would be okay. Just my opinion though.

Hey pb do the current guys also hate Vic amuso or do they see him as another victim of Casso?Also ive read that book 3 times and one thing i want to know how did the lucheseses finaly decide to get rid of Casso?They were so scared of him then all of a sudden Amuso shelved him and Casso started to rat.

Also even though casso was an evil scumbag i never would of thought in a million years he would of snitched.This guy grew up in the life and was around Genevese family from a young kid unlike gravano.If Casso never got caught and was still out on the streets today he most defiantly would of clipped more of his captains and he either would of wiped them all out and only young guys who are loyaal to casso would be left or after a few more killing the other capos would of gotten together and there would of been an internal war

Not as much as they hate Casso.

Casso manipulated Amuso, no doubt. But in that life (or any walk of life, really), a man is judged by the company he keeps .

Halfway through Carlo's fairytale on Casso and I love how it portrays Amuso as some random guy, "lazy, stupid and greedy" that stumbled into the position of boss and Casso as this calculating, intelligent, handsome (Carlo must have mentioned this at least twenty times so far), virile, square jawed, barrel chested guy that all the bosses respected; when in reality he was a babbling little psychopath that commanded little or no respect; as anyone that watched him rant on 60 minutes can attest to.

Amuso must be sickened by this whitewash of history from a rat like Casso.

Get the name of Vic Amuso's wife wrong.

Calls Frank Lastorino "Frank Lastorono" and "Frank Alstorono".

Barely gives Vic a passing mention despite being the boss of the family.

Filled with blatant lies to make Casso look better.

Something I don't understand... Casso said he didn't want to be boss because he didn't like all the baggage that came with it. Yet he is at pains to point out that Amuso was boss only in name, that Amuso was submissive to Casso and that Casso took over as boss when Amuso was captured.

Also... I'm pretty sure that D'Arco said it was primarily Amuso handing down orders on who to whack and other business decisions.

Is Casso right? Was Amuso just a patsy or is Casso just downplaying his role and throwing him under the bus for what happened in the late 80's/early 90's.

Finally... something else Casso says that doesn't add up is that Corallo wanted to make him boss but Casso insisted on Amuso yet other sources say Corallo wanted to make Buddy Luongo boss but Amuso took him out and strongarmed his way into the role.

It's really hard to believe some of the stuff Casso and D'Arco say. Casso basically calls Amuso a chickenshit for not breaking out of prison. How did all those escape attempts on horseback go for Casso? And D'Arco says Amuso couldn't look him in the eye which sounds like posturing to me. Casso says in the book that Amuso wouldn't look at D'Arco out of disgust after all those botched hits he specialised in and this is when D'Arco began shitting himself about Amuso whacking him.

I got to say I have more respect for Amuso than Casso and D'Arco. Never ratted, did his time, kept his mouth shut and has these two stoolpigeons talking shit about him behind his back.

Gingello- I don't know about that. I had cancer and can assure you it was no picnic. Luckily I have been in remission 5 years. Hasn't he been there 2-3 years ??? As was mentioned above, it sure seems like a lot of them get seriously sick in lockup

It's because you don't get to move around properly.

Anthony casso is like the poster boy for the mob not to turn rat or they'll end up like casso. they fucked him every which you could for a turncoat. all them millions casso hid and had would have gone on to his grandkids and his reputation till this day. I wouldn't want to owe so mob boss kids or friends 100 bucks.

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According to Al, Gaspipe wanted specific details on who shot Charlie Visconti to death (March 1991) and who did what.

To quote Al: "It was almost like Gaspipe was making some kind of report, that if he got caught he would turn it over".

Thoughts?

https://books.google.ie/books?id=IKVWTsi...ao's&f=true

I wonder if hes still alive. read he had cancer years ago. his daughter married to a made guy. is his son really in the life? he was in Brooklyn couple years ago. must be scary to be a son of a murderous lcn rat. that guy killed tons of people. Karen gravano is a girl so kinda of limit.

Did Casso have some buisness in south brooklyn(park slope,Red hook)?By buisness i mean after hours clubs,bookmaking,clubs..anything at all??Or was he Bensonhurst based all the way..?
He grew up on Union st betwen 4th ave and 5th.That's why i ask.

Casso's daughter married to a made guy? Whom?

And I doubt his son is in the life but I do remember reading that he tried to meet Burton Kaplan - to threaten him? - over ownership of Casso's mill basin mansion.

So Vic Amuso initially took over sometime in mid 86'. Who was underboss and consigliere for the administration from 87' til 92' ?

He took over in December 1986 IIRC. Amuso was boss, Casso was underboss and Lastorino was consigliere unless I'm mistaken.

Anthony Luongo was supposed to be boss but he "disappeared".

In the early 1970's, I met Vic Amuso. Then, in 1974, I became
a "made" member of the Lucchese family. Vic was "made" in
around 1977. At that time, "Tony Ducks" Corallo was the boss of
our family. But in 1986, Tony Ducks went to jail, so he had to
name a new boss. I became a "capo" in 1986.

After discussions within the family, Tony Ducks made Vic Amuso
the boss at the end of 1986. At the end of 1987, Vic told me I was
the new consiglieri. Then, in 1989, Vic named me the underboss of
the family. After Vic was arrested in July 1991, I ran the Lucchese
family as underboss while I was a fugitive.

-Anthony Casso Senate Testimony on Russian OC