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Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: JJB] #772243
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Don't know what the deal is. He hasn't said much in the last month and a half.

Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: Snakes] #772245
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Nice find on the Fischetti pic? Where'd you get it, anyway?

Hair and skin tone definitely match #5.

What's up with Fosco these days? Is he sleeping in a trunk somewhere?

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Last I saw he responded two weeks ago to someone on his Bastone post trolling him. Haven't heard anything since.

Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: JJB] #772468
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#7 is Leonard Gianola. Check out page 85 here.

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I believe you got it ! John Binder's book is great. Excellent pictures.

Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: JJB] #772474
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Also, I do believe that #5 is Johnny Formosa.



I'm also wondering if #10 isn't Vincent Inserro.

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Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: funkster] #772477
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Now tell me if #9, instead of Cerone, might be Jimmy Catuara? He's on page 81 here.

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Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: JJB] #772478
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It doesn't look like Inserro to me but whatever. It doesn't look like Fosco is ever going to reveal it anyway.

This is Needles Gianola, so draw your own conclusions:

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Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: Snakes] #772479
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Wow, those 2 photos don't jibe at all. When was the photo you posted taken? Another case of journalistic mistaken identity?

EDIT: BTW, the Gianola pic that I linked to appears to be from 1961, just about when our ANP pic was taken.

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Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: JJB] #772480
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And I don't know why I just now thought of this but #10 (glasses, cigar) has to be Sam DeStefano. I know somebody briefly mentioned #8 as potentially being Sam but I never even thought of #10 until just now.


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I have as my personal definites:

Amato
Accardo
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DeStefano


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Something about this picture does look like #10:



I had never really considered him for #10 either. Jeebus.

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Originally Posted By: Snakes
It doesn't look like Inserro to me but whatever. It doesn't look like Fosco is ever going to reveal it anyway.

This is Needles Gianola, so draw your own conclusions:

Yep based on this picture he ain't in the Fosco pic. Back to the drawing board.

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On this picture next to Accardo on the right is Nick Palermo,but the thing is this picture is taken in the late 70's(i think) so Plaermo is much older but i see a big resemblance with nubmer 10



Too bad i cant find a bigger picture....


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Originally Posted By: JJB
Something about this picture does look like #10:



I had never really considered him for #10 either. Jeebus.


This photo sealed it for me:



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These photos of DeStefano are from the 1960s. Fosco's photo is from the 1940s.

DeStefano was never in Accardo's inner circle or on par with some of the other guys at that table given the time period of the photo. If the photo is from the 1940s, DeStefano spent most of that decade in Leavenworth. His star didn't really rise until the late 1950s and even then, DeStefano was mostly held at arms length by Giancana and the Taylor Street regime in power at that point.

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The Fosco photo is from the late 50's.

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Re: ANP photo contest: let's get this done already. [Re: ChiTown] #772834
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Snakes is right. The photo, as best as can be surmised from the cars in the background, wasn't taken prior to '56.

And in the late 50s, Mad Sam was what, direct to Ricca? That's what I've heard, anywho. Wouldn't be surprising to see him at the table whatsoever.

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From 2 months ago in the actual ANP thread, a poster by the name of Antillar posited the following, and Fosco confirmed 5 of them were correct:

"Here's my list of names, from left to right:
1. Joe Amato
2. Joe Batters Accardo
3. Queenie Simonelli
4. Joe Gagliano? (smiling man with cap)
5. Rocco Fischetti
6. unknown (younger handsome man smiling)
7. unknown (man with back turned)
8. Nick Palermo
9. James Adduci (with glasses)
10. Jackie Cerone
11. Willie Messino (smiling man with sunglasses and cigar)"

So which 5 were correct? Amato, Tuna and Cerone are probably the safest bets, leaving 2 of Gagliano, Fischetti, Palermo, Adduci and Messino as being confirmed correct(#3 of course being Pranno and not Simonelli).

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This is Joe Gags (pictured below) but it's an more "recent" photo of him than Fosco's. Not really sure what Palermo or Adducci look like so I can't really discount them either. Fischetti seems to be a popular choice for open-shirt guy so no real argument from me there. I thought that cigar guy was Messino for a while but switched it to Mad Sam and I'm maybe a little too unreasonably confident in that guess.


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Originally Posted By: Toodoped
On this picture next to Accardo on the right is Nick Palermo,but the thing is this picture is taken in the late 70's(i think) so Plaermo is much older but i see a big resemblance with nubmer 10



Too bad i cant find a bigger picture....

I've seen this picture before, but have never seen the others identified. I feel like the guy on the far right is in the Fosco picture...but could be way off.

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Originally Posted By: Snakes
This is Joe Gags (pictured below) but it's an more "recent" photo of him than Fosco's. Not really sure what Palermo or Adducci look like so I can't really discount them either. Fischetti seems to be a popular choice for open-shirt guy so no real argument from me there. I thought that cigar guy was Messino for a while but switched it to Mad Sam and I'm maybe a little too unreasonably confident in that guess.



fischetti was in the late 70's (what i assume for the picture) already dead

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The picture was from the late fifties.


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Greetings from a newby.
I just wanted to say that JJB and Snakes are onto something with DeStefano as #10. I would not have guessed it because he aged so poorly and so fast. But if you compare the shape of the ears it is an excellent match.

Second, both Fosco and Brashler made mistakes with Pranno.
I have sent Fosco 5 different photos from the Trib archives well as this link to a guy selling reprints from the SunTimes photo morgue.
Pranno shots
Pranno had a huge cleft chin that you couldn't miss. The guy Brashler labled as Potenza, is actually Pranno. Most of those SunTimes photos come from the trial that put Pranno away for the rest of his life. I don't think they got them switched.

Next, Nick Palermo (mob plumber). He is in the shot. Nick's signature feature was cotton white hair with black eyebrows.
I'll leave it to you guys to figure out which one he is.

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I actually ran across the same thing when I was doing some research recently. At first I took Fosco's word for it when he claimed it was Pranno but I found some other photos which show the purported Pranno. I wouldn't figure that multiple sources got it wrong, so I would guess that the guy in the photo is actually Potenza, I guess.

Pretty sure I have seven (possibly nine) now that PK has hinted at Nick Palermo but since Fosco apparently isn't accepting any more guesses (I've sent three with no response) I am not sure if I will submit.


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Originally Posted By: Snakes
At first I took Fosco's word for it when he claimed it was Pranno but I found some other photos which show the purported Pranno. I wouldn't figure that multiple sources got it wrong, so I would guess that the guy in the photo is actually Potenza, I guess.


I think #3 is Simonelli, geez he looks just like the guy.

I am also pretty sure I know who #6 is and no one has even brought up his name.


He was only the handsomest man in the outfit.

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#3 isn't Simonelli only because Fosco has already said he isn't. Fosco claimed it was Pranno and cites his unnamed source as saying so. I would wager that it's actually Potenza and somebody got the Roccos mixed up again.

For the record, I do not think #6 is Nicoletti.


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Although who knows, #3 could very well be Simonelli but we'll never know because it doesn't look like he is gonna answer anytime soon.


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