Originally Posted By: DBCooper
Well he had something to do with Roy DeMeo. Thats why the Paul Hoffmann murder happened.

Anthony Bruno verifyed it.

As for his association with DeMeo, the late Kenny McCabe of the NYPD confirmed that Kuklinski had been at the Gemini Lounge in Brooklyn (DeMeo's headquarters) on several occasions. DeMeo was under surveillance in the early '80s, and the police routinely took down the plate numbers of the cars parked around the bar. Kuklinski's was one of them.

http://www.amazon.com/Immortal-Monster-Crimescape-Anthony-Bruno-ebook/dp/B005DN1UG2

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/americanmafia/conversations/topics/7489



I read Bruno's book on the Iceman and it was OK if you enjoy reading about forensics but Bruno claims that RK did not absue his kids at all but that's not true as he did at least psychologically abuse all of them, and since he beat the $h!t out of his wife (who he would have killed had she tried to leave/divorce him, or get the police or authorities involved about his abuse) it would not be surprising if he physically abused his children too.

I'm not even sure if RK really used cyanide or not as Bruno claims such as how Bruno and RK claimed RK used it on one guy who I forget the name of, in a very crowded dance club in spray form by pretending to sneeze on the guy and despite it being an indoor dance club or disco, or bar with a dance area only that guy died when in reality a lot more people would have been exposed to it had it hypothetically happened.

I don't believe RK's claims of putting people in a cave in PA or NJ alive and waiting for rats to eat them as he claimed to Phil Carlo.

This book review of Carlo's book explains it in more detail.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-revi...#R2RNA3I3RW719U

Originally Posted By: Catiline
This review is from: The Ice Man: Confessions of a Mafia Contract Killer (Hardcover)
I've studied NYC, NJ & Philly OC for over 20 years now. I've read 100's of books on this subject including the one by Anthony Bruno about Kuklinski about 10 years ago. Some by cops, some by feds, some by rats, some by reporters. Nowhere have I ever read, even hinted at, the more outragous claims made by Richard (Iceman) Kuklinski. A couple of the more unbelievable.

Paul (Big Paul) Castellano Shooting. HE WAS NOT THERE. This was planned and executed by "The Fist" a faction of Gambino's dissatisfied for a number of reasons with his leadership. The Fist was made up of John Gotti, Angelo Ruggerio, Frankie DeCicco, Robert (DeBee) Debenardo, and Sammy Bull Gravano. Others in the family (Gene Gotti, Joe Gallo, et al) knew of the plot, but it emulated and was executed primarily by the Bergin crew headed by Gotti. Below are the shooters. NONE was paid cash to participate. The payment was power within the Gambino's hierarchy after Big Paul was dead. There is NO WAY Gravano would have asked or Gotti would have approved of an unknown shooter being brought into the plot as a freelance mercenary.

John Carneglia Primary shooter, target Castellano, in front of Sparks,

Vincent Artuso Primary shooter, target Castellano, in front of Sparks,

Eddie Lino Primary shooter, target Billotti, in front of Sparks,

Salvatore (Fat Sally) Scala, Primary shooter, target Billotti, in front of Sparks,

Dominick (Skinny Dom) Pizzonia, Back-up shooter across E. 46th St. from Sparks,

Anthony (Tony Roach) Rampino, Back-up shooter across E. 46th St. from Sparks,

Angelo (Quack Quack) Ruggerio, Back-up shooter across E. 46th St. from Sparks,

Joe (The German)Watts, Back-up shooter across E. 46th St. from Sparks,

John Gotti In Car at 3rd Ave & E. 46th St. opposite Sparks,

Salvatore (Sammy Bull) Gravano In Car at 3rd Ave & E. 46th St. opposite Sparks,

FrankDeCicco Inside Sparks

The association with and killing of Roy DeMeo. It is possible that Kuklinski knew DeMeo. Although no cooperating witnesses ever mentioned him. It is even possible that DeMeo kept "The Pollock" around as a secert weapon - that I'd believe. But there is NO WAY, NONE, ZERO that DeMeo would have introduced him to his supervisor in the Gambino family, Anthony Gaggi. And Gaggi wouldn't introduce himself. BTW Gaggi's dog was not a German shepard but a pure breed male boxer. Lastly, Roy was killed by fellow crew associates Joseph Testa and Anthony Senter as well as Nino after orders came from Paul to "take care of him Nino". Also, Frankie DeCicco was instructed to assist Nino if he needed shooters or back-up. Again, no one was paid. Senter and Testa were promoted to made status. Dracula was killed around the same time.

The killing of Jimmy Hoffa. C'mon not even the author could possibly believe this. It has been verified beyond dispute that Tony Pro was in NJ at the time of the killing. I'm not going to waste time reputing this BS any more.

Carmine (Lilo, Cigar) Galante Shooting. There was a lone dinner in Joe & Mary's that hot July afternoon according to Giuseppe Turano's son. However, he hit the deck when Louis Giongetti, Dominick Trinchera and Sonny Black walked in armed to teeth. Turncoat Galante bodyguard Cesare Bonventre pulled his pistol and shot loyal Galante bodyguard Leonard Coppola six times before he hit the floor. Clueless and 3rd bodyguard Baldassare (Baldo) Amato pulled his gun and dove behind a table. Sonny shotgunned Galante while Big Trin chased down Turano's son and shot him in back while he searched for a gun stored in the employee's bathroom. Anthony "Bruno" Indelicato waited in the street by the car with a M1 carbine. Louis Giongetti walked over to Coppola and shot the top of his skull of for good measure. Cesare quickly informed his cousin Baldo not to shoot and leave with him, which he did. This killing was ordered by boss Phillip Rastelli in conjuction with the Gambino's over control of the heroin market and revenge for Gambino killings. Ironically, it was the Zips headed by Salvatore Catalano & Joe Ganci who eventually took over Galante's babina business. Massino took control of the family. This account has been verified by several different sources.

Cave with Rats. Logistics would be unlikely or impossible. Try to find a remote cave 75 miles from home at night whilst guarding a live hostage. Try setting up automatic camera's w/ lights to capture the rats eating the victim. I will admit it's a sick mind to envision such things, but I doubt he actually did it. Camera, light and motion technology plus logistics of transport makes it an unlikely tale to scare women and small children.

Flare to balls. I read almost same account about Legs Diamond and a farmer in a book called Mob Stories about seven years ago. A little less graphic but, punch line was same. Probably Rich read this too. Obviously author didn't read it or don't know how to vet a source.

All in all a good book and worth the money for true crime buffs. I'm glad I bought it, but the killings Kuklinski actually did would have been enough. The other mob stuff is his own fantasy.

Last edited by cornuto_e_contento; 04/10/14 11:33 PM.