During that period they were as they always were, "the gang that couldn't shoot straight", but even more so.
Persico lost his mind and had delusions of LCN domination.
It was during this period that the crew I was associated with had contact and conflict with the Colombos.
Their upstate NY crew at the time consisted of a Capo, two made guys and a crew of about 10 associates and 5 more fringe associates. From top to bottom they were mooks who couldn't find their ass with both hands.
They took us to war over Utica/Rome/Syracuse and the sum of their gains was whacking Al Marrone two days after he got out of prison, killing two women and beating another to within an inch of her life in Florida, and in the process bringing down so much heat on themselves they manged to get the Feds to do the work of eliminating them for us.


Been there and done it
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