I have said this before....Look at the condition of urban neighborhoods today as opposed to circa 1960,try to get a commercial building start in a city where there was a large LCN presence now as opposed to 30 years ago, look at at gerneral laborors pay today (even accounting for inflation) compared to 30 or even 20 years ago, ask yourself if a NJ Governor would have dared kill a massive tunnel project 25 years ago, ask yourself how many 3 year old children were hit by a stray LCN bullet as compared to what happens today, ask yourself if the interstate highway syetem would EVER get built today, and when you come to the conclusion it never would, ask your self WHY...and you will see there was GOOD, and that it is mostly gone