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Re: Was it easier back then?
[Re: NNY78]
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03/22/14 06:29 PM
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Welcome Jacob. I would say its unlikely in this day and age that we will see the LCN return to its former prominence, however other OC groups appear to be growing in size and strength like the Russians. I think you make a great point, while the feds focus on one group the others seem to flourish. Other groups can make money but they will never wield the power or influence LCN had from the 1930's - 1980's It's not that hard to make money illegally. Just start dealing drugs. You won't last that long on the streets, but you can make plenty of money. The Eastern European groups are smarter with their white collar crimes and human trafficking that don't result in long prison sentences.
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Re: Was it easier back then?
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03/25/14 03:35 PM
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Was it easier back then for something like the Italian Mafia to get powerful? Could some organized crime group ever get as massive as that again in the U.S., or even many small organized groups of crime?
I feel like especially after that era, we really have started to understand bribery of officials, intimidation, threats, and basically how it all works.
Does this mean the U.S. is so equipped with the info to fight back against organized crime that we will see another organized crime group rise? (Not rooting for crime, it is just a thought). You had several factors coming together that gave rise to the Mafia in the U.S. A self-sustaining criminal subculture that could outlast it's competitors. Institutionalized corruption in local governments and police departments. Prohibition, of course. The rise of the union movement. Ineffective law enforcement. Etc. Despite many predictions, no other group has assumed the level of influence the LCN did at it's peak because these factors above no longer exist.
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Re: Was it easier back then?
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03/25/14 05:17 PM
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Despite many predictions, no other group has assumed the level of influence the LCN did at it's peak because these factors above no longer exist. Exactly. It's not for a lack of smarts or balls, it's that no other ethnic group today will ever enjoy the same set of circumstances. The 20's and 30's were the perfect storm to give rise to a criminal conglomerate like the American Mafia.
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Re: Was it easier back then?
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They were a secret group, that was their strongest point. An organization of that size and scale growing in secrecy would not be possible now. Very well put
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Re: Was it easier back then?
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Despite many predictions, no other group has assumed the level of influence the LCN did at it's peak because these factors above no longer exist. Exactly. It's not for a lack of smarts or balls, it's that no other ethnic group today will ever enjoy the same set of circumstances. The 20's and 30's were the perfect storm to give rise to a criminal conglomerate like the American Mafia. Is that an intro for a biography channel special?
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Re: Was it easier back then?
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03/31/14 05:13 AM
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Scammers have had to increase their sophistication because law enforcement has also ramped up its technical efficiency.
Evidence is frequently obtained illegally. It can't be used as evidence in court, but it adds to police intelligence and knowledge.
Here's an example:
Security cameras cannot be placed in to public toilets, for example in disco's where police suspect drug dealing goes on. Police install tiny security cameras anyway, because it lets them know who to begin surveilling in greater detail.
Last edited by night_timer; 03/31/14 05:14 AM.
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