This is true. Sometimes there are weak-minded people who just play, monkey see-monkey do. or in this case, monkey hear-monkey do. But as long as there are negative messages in music, they will continue to be blamed.

The Doc

but then how come if I tell you go shoot some guy or those people over there are against us and you go over and do something then it is your responsibility. But if some person YOU NEVER MET writes a song about it then you are not to blame (for lack of a better term)


sorry we can't agree on more than one thing lol

No, no, no. I agree with you. I don't think all violence or drug use should be blamed on artists. A song is a creative work of art. It's the few that go and use that as an excuse to perform crime. The Few are to blame.

The Doc

No, no, no. I agree with you. I don't think all violence or drug use should be blamed on artists. A song is a creative work of art. It's the few that go and use that as an excuse to perform crime. The Few are to blame.

The Doc [/b][/quote]oh lol my mistake.

That can be said for pretty much anything though. I think that last year there was some kid who went out and shot someone who was in a parked car, then he tried to blame it on Grand Theft Auto, so he tried suing Rockstar Games. People have to realize there's a difference between the wannabe rappers around right now and real rappers of the past. Pretty much all Rap/Hip-Hop music right now is Hip-Hop. Hip-Hop is bragging about cars, money, and bitches while Rap actually has a meaning and tries to explain things with political ideologies and give people insight on what's happening with crime in this country.

Here's a little break down for you on my opinions of Rap and Hip-Hop.

Rap:
2Pac - Better Dayz 2Pac - Brenda\'s Got a Baby
2Pac - Keep Ya Head Up
2Pac - Me Against the World *
2Pac - Unconditional Love Kanye West - Two Words
Eminem - The Way I Am
Eminem - White America
Eminem - Sing For the Moment
Jadakiss - Why?


* = IMO, while not my # 1 favorite, definetly the
best Rap song ever created.

Hip-Hop:
Lil\' Flip - Game Over
Petey Pablo - Freek-A-Leek
Lil\' John - Get Low
Ludacris - Act a Fool

As it's been stated hundreds of times, there's a distinct different between favorites and what you think are "the best." These are my favorites:

1.) Nirvana's In Utero
2.) Everclear's So Much For The Afterglow
3.) Green Day's American Idiot (and coming from a conservative, you know the album's fuckin' good)
4.) Flickerstick's Welcoming Home the Astronauts
5.) Goo Goo Doll's Dizzy Up The Girl

Honorable Mentions/Other Favorites: Taking Back Sunday's Tell All Your Friends, The Cure's Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Nirvana's Bleach, Thursday's Full Collapse, Dashboard Confessional's The Swiss Army Romance, Matchbook Romance's Stories & Alibis, Nirvana's Incesticide, Green Day's Dookie, The Cure's Disintegration, Goo Goo Doll's A Boy Named Goo, Something Corporate's Leaving Through the Window, Thrice's Illusion of Safety, The Ramones' Rocket to Russia, Thursday's War All The Time, Nirvana's Nevermind, Cursive's Domestica, Dead Kennedys' Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables, Nirvana's Unplugged in New York, The Sex Pistols' Nevermind the Bollocks, Sugarcult's Palm Trees and Power Lines, Rage Against the Machine's Evil Empire, Pixies' Surfer Rosa, Dashboard Confessional's The Places You Have Come To Fear The Most, Flickerstick's Causing a Catastrophe (Live), Ryan Adams's Gold, Dashboard Confessionals So Impossible EP, Kanye West's College Dropout, The Ramones' The Ramones (self-titled), among others...

Once I start a list, it's hard for me to stop. So, sorry for the length...

The Who - "Who's Next"

The Jimi Hendrix Experience - "Are You Experienced"

Southside Johnny and The Asbury Jukes-Hearts of Stone

Rolling Stones- Sticky Fingers

Sublime- 40oz to Freedom

Offspring- Smash

i think nirvana teen spirt is there best album,the guitar riffs are amazing

has ne body got eminems new album in the us yet i think its called encore

It comes out November 16th. -Pat

Oh right thanks pat

Deftones - Adrenaline.

Top Ten (in no particular order)

Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys
Revolver - The Beatles
London Calling - The Clash
My Aim Is True - Elvis Costello
Definitely Maybe - Oasis
The Visitors - ABBA
Searching for The Young Soul Rebels - Dexy's Midnight Runners
The Hounds of Love - Kate Bush
Tupelo Honey - Van Morrison
The Godfather Soundtrack - Nino Rota/Carmine Coppola et al

Ive got the godfather trilogy soundtrack,theres some beutiful songs on there.

I see most of you have Beatles albums. To your surprise, I'm sure, I actually have that # 1 album they released a couple years back. 'I Wanna Hold Your Hand' is my favorite. -Pat

pat- that song started beatle manina in the u.s, just afer j.f.k was gunned down

The Beatles - White Album.

Showcases all four of the Beatles talents, and all four step up to the mic at least once.

george martin wanted that album as 1 cd not 2. could have eclipsed st pepper

has anybody heard the album by Keane-Hope and Fears excellant album, best british band of 2004

Bruce Springsteen - "Darkness on the Edge of Town," "Born in the U.S.A.," and "The Rising."

Led Zeppelin - "Physical Graffiti"

Rolling Stones - "Let it Bleed," "Sticky Fingers," and "Beggar's Banquet"

Guns 'N Roses - "Appetite for Destruction"

Tom Petty - "Full Moon Fever"

And probably because it was the first album I ever bought Kiss - "Alive II"

I would have to say Pink Floyd The Wall. and The Doors Morrison hotel

Hmmm don't exactly agree there, they are ok but MUST get a guitarist and i think razorlight, bloc party, babyshambles and the paddingtons are the best new bands of 2004 and in 2005 the paddingtons will have an album and maybe babyshambles (unless pete gets back with the libs) hoping that happens.

Hmmm don't exactly agree there, they are ok but MUST get a guitarist and i think razorlight, bloc party, babyshambles and the paddingtons are the best new bands of 2004 and in 2005 the paddingtons will have an album and maybe babyshambles (unless pete gets back with the libs) hoping that happens. [/b][/quote]ive not heard of them

razorlight are quite well known in the UK now, they're on mtv2 alot and did reading main stage, babyshambles are pete dohertys band, pete doherty from the libertines i mean, the paddingtons are quite knew and will get big, bloc party are on mtv2 quite alot aswell. O and the others are gonna be huge.

ive not got mtv2 so thats why not heard them.

currently I've been listening to alot of 80's rock. I change my mind quite a bit. Right now I have Van Halen: Best of Both Worlds in my car. I've also been playing a lot of Bon Jovi, Foreigner, Def Leppard, and Journey lately. I guess I'm on a retro kick. I feel like I'm back in high school - kinda nice sometimes when I get sick of stuff I have to do.

I like bon jovi too,his early stuff is the best,

his live album of greatest hits is a top album.

both classics. a shame jimmi died when he did

only the good die young