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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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So we have another name...Robert Pannozo. Pannozo is a a blue collar burglar from Elmwood Park. He was in that burglary ring with Paul Koroluk who is also a Grand Avenue crew member and notable confidant of Albie Vena.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Don't know the ins and outs of the law, but it's odd that it was the FBI that was the lead in this. Why not CPD? Wonder if the Outfit involvement is more than we currently know. the mafia doesn't operate in enough "chicago" neighborhoods for the CPD to chase them they operate in crooked ass suburbs it's odd that the feds keep busting outfit associates right before they commit a crime
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Don't know the ins and outs of the law, but it's odd that it was the FBI that was the lead in this. Why not CPD? Wonder if the Outfit involvement is more than we currently know. the mafia doesn't operate in enough "chicago" neighborhoods for the CPD to chase them they operate in crooked ass suburbs it's odd that the feds keep busting outfit associates right before they commit a crime I would have thought anyone who follows the news in Chicago and read anything over the weekend,would realize the "Outfit is extinct, down to 28 members" nonsense is just that, nonesense. Mandells trail involves a multi million dollar a year outfit operation...not bad for an "extinct family" huh?
Been there and done it I am very much for real, so if you ask, make sure you really want to know.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Don't know the ins and outs of the law, but it's odd that it was the FBI that was the lead in this. Why not CPD? Wonder if the Outfit involvement is more than we currently know. the mafia doesn't operate in enough "chicago" neighborhoods for the CPD to chase them they operate in crooked ass suburbs it's odd that the feds keep busting outfit associates right before they commit a crime It depends on whose jurisdiction this would have fallen under. If these meetings Mandell was having were in Chicago and if "Club Med" really was in Edgebrook, that would fall under Chicago authority, not the suburbs. Just because they are based in the suburbs now, doesn't mean they don't conduct business here in the city.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Don't know the ins and outs of the law, but it's odd that it was the FBI that was the lead in this. Why not CPD? Wonder if the Outfit involvement is more than we currently know. the mafia doesn't operate in enough "chicago" neighborhoods for the CPD to chase them they operate in crooked ass suburbs it's odd that the feds keep busting outfit associates right before they commit a crime It depends on whose jurisdiction this would have fallen under. If these meetings Mandell was having were in Chicago and if "Club Med" really was in Edgebrook, that would fall under Chicago authority, not the suburbs. The Feds can bump local law enforcement if the investigation involves federal crimes
Been there and done it I am very much for real, so if you ask, make sure you really want to know.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Don't know the ins and outs of the law, but it's odd that it was the FBI that was the lead in this. Why not CPD? Wonder if the Outfit involvement is more than we currently know. the mafia doesn't operate in enough "chicago" neighborhoods for the CPD to chase them they operate in crooked ass suburbs it's odd that the feds keep busting outfit associates right before they commit a crime It depends on whose jurisdiction this would have fallen under. If these meetings Mandell was having were in Chicago and if "Club Med" really was in Edgebrook, that would fall under Chicago authority, not the suburbs. The Feds can bump local law enforcement if the investigation involves federal crimes Exactly what I mean. That's why I wonder if there isn't more to this than we know. Did the feds take over this conspiracy to murder investigation simply because of the meetings with known Outfit members, or is there more to this investigation than we've been made aware of?
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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The Feds can bump local law enforcement if the investigation involves federal crimes [/quote] Exactly what I mean. That's why I wonder if there isn't more to this than we know. Did the feds take over this conspiracy to murder investigation simply because of the meetings with known Outfit members, or is there more to this investigation than we've been made aware of?[/quote]
As I have said, this investigation involves a multi million dollar outfit operation, the Russian mafia, Human trafficing, prostitution, shy, and the adult and sex industry throughout the midwest. Why just traget Mandell you might ask? Becuse the rest of the activity is either "Legal", "Semi Legal", extreammly hard to prove, or NOT a federal crime.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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The Feds can bump local law enforcement if the investigation involves federal crimes Exactly what I mean. That's why I wonder if there isn't more to this than we know. Did the feds take over this conspiracy to murder investigation simply because of the meetings with known Outfit members, or is there more to this investigation than we've been made aware of?[/quote] As I have said, this investigation involves a multi million dollar outfit operation, the Russian mafia, Human trafficing, prostitution, shy, and the adult and sex industry throughout the midwest. Why just traget Mandell you might ask? Becuse the rest of the activity is either "Legal", "Semi Legal", extreammly hard to prove, or NOT a federal crime. [/quote] As we have all concluded, you really are just a teenager in Mom's basement with a big imagination
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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No idea what Chi town said becuse he is so totally irrelivant I put him on ignore, but I can only assume it is the usual nonsense....try to keep it down chitown...the informed grown ups are talking..k?
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Club Med was in edgebrook Yeah, which is in Chicago not the burbs.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Club Med was in edgebrook Yeah, which is in Chicago not the burbs. Just more prooof that this was much more than a simple murder plot, if it were there would be no reason for the Feds to get involved
Been there and done it I am very much for real, so if you ask, make sure you really want to know.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Lol yes I agree. I think everyone is simply proving the point I'm trying to make, that there is something else going on here than just Mandell trying to murder some people for a guy that was introduced to him by the Outfit. I think ChiTown is correct, there is more to this investigation than just Mandell and a La Scarola introduction.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Question for ChiTown, or whomever, really.
Which crew was Sam Sarcinelli with? Sarcinelli has been around the Outfit for a long time with his buddy Larry Bradi, a former CPD officer. Frankly I would have assumed he was dead. He has been an active drug dealer for decades and did time on cocaine charges in the 1970s and 1980s. He was also connected to Ken Eto. I know that Sarcinelli was also close with Joe Lombardo and grew up in the Patch so I would assume he is Grand Avenue. Sam owns an ATM company called "ASAI-VI." Dominic Magiamele and his son were really just bookies...they probably paid their taxes through Cortina and Angelini so I would assume they kick up to guys like Marco D'Amico now.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Sarcinelli & the elder Mangiamele were initial investors in Polekatz Bridgeview along with 'Tony Q' Quaranta. Freddy Plascente also hitched his pathetic wheel to that wagon in some form or another.
Speaking of which, @chitown, what do you make of the recent interviews with Fred on YouTube? What do you think of him & do you think he fabricates? Why don't you like Fred Pascente? Most people say he is a very nice person and personable.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Sarcinelli & the elder Mangiamele were initial investors in Polekatz Bridgeview along with 'Tony Q' Quaranta. Freddy Plascente also hitched his pathetic wheel to that wagon in some form or another.
Speaking of which, @chitown, what do you make of the recent interviews with Fred on YouTube? What do you think of him & do you think he fabricates? Hmmm interesting. I'm very curious as to what inner Outfit politics is going on with this whole situation. Also interesting that thewives or whomever deleted that comment so quickly. I wonder if Panozzo and Vena were the only two GAC reps at that meeting or if someone else was there. Who were the guys that Mandell was heard nicknaming in the wires...yet another question i'm curious about. Finally, I can't imagine Pascente is doing much these days. I would assume discussing Outfit stories on youtube would be frowned upon.
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