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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: DBCooper] #763526
02/13/14 09:15 PM
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Huron and the Arm.

Next all we need is cookcounty and we'll have a trifecta.

Question: why do you think nearly all relative authorities, overwhelming majority of quite knowledgable posters here and on similar blogs coupled with the FB friggen EYE all purport the same conclusion regards the Windy City EXCEPT you three who apparently know better than everyone?

Is it conceit, arrogance, wishful thinking or stupidity which leads you to think you KNOW more than EVERYBODY else?

And in case you were wondering. That was rhetorical.


MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: DBCooper] #763558
02/14/14 01:58 AM
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I take it little nickey does not like Chicago lol. I think the outfit wished EVERYONE thought like you. How could anyone be so naive to think Chicago is basically dead??? its the 3rd largest city in America with over 780,000 residents in the whole Chicago land area that are of Italian descent. I'm going to find that freaking link from the FBI website where even they say that the Chicago outfit is the single most lucrative Italian organized crime identity in the United States. The report was from 2012. New York is nothing but a bunch of rats who glee for the spot light. Every LCN family has a rat problem but the guys on the east coast have fine tuned it to a perfect art form. How ever Chicago has been able to keep its mouth shut for the most part over all these years minus the family secrets trial a few years back which really did not do much as far as hurting the outfit. The difference between Chicago and New York is Chicago keeps their mouths shut and drives pick up trucks and ball caps to stay under the radar where as New york guys have diarrhea of the mouth, drive fancy cars, where snazzy clothes, and walk around with a billboard that says "hey look at me, I'm a New Yorker and I'm in the mob, now get on your knees and suck my balls because im so awesome"

Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: DBCooper] #763561
02/14/14 03:03 AM
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Little Nicky & Sonny blackengoof would you two calm the fuck down? You stooge idiots get so goddamn bent out of shape over some total motherfuckin nonsense to begin with.

Where did anyone say the Outfit had hundreds of made guys? Copy & paste please.

The Outfit has always had a tight inner circle of older made men, even going back to their heyday you very rarely had guys getting made into the Chicago Outfit at young ages

Last edited by HuronSocialAthletic; 02/14/14 03:12 AM.
Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: Dago_From_Chicago] #763567
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Originally Posted By: Dago_From_Chicago
I take it little nickey does not like Chicago lol. I think the outfit wished EVERYONE thought like you. How could anyone be so naive to think Chicago is basically dead??? its the 3rd largest city in America with over 780,000 residents in the whole Chicago land area that are of Italian descent. I'm going to find that freaking link from the FBI website where even they say that the Chicago outfit is the single most lucrative Italian organized crime identity in the United States. The report was from 2012. New York is nothing but a bunch of rats who glee for the spot light. Every LCN family has a rat problem but the guys on the east coast have fine tuned it to a perfect art form. How ever Chicago has been able to keep its mouth shut for the most part over all these years minus the family secrets trial a few years back which really did not do much as far as hurting the outfit. The difference between Chicago and New York is Chicago keeps their mouths shut and drives pick up trucks and ball caps to stay under the radar where as New york guys have diarrhea of the mouth, drive fancy cars, where snazzy clothes, and walk around with a billboard that says "hey look at me, I'm a New Yorker and I'm in the mob, now get on your knees and suck my balls because im so awesome"




not too mention that illinois is easily the most crooked state

people seem not to understand the severity of bosses wearing wires or turning state

ny makes people just to keep their numbers up

Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: cookcounty] #763578
02/14/14 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: Dago_From_Chicago
I take it little nickey does not like Chicago lol. I think the outfit wished EVERYONE thought like you. How could anyone be so naive to think Chicago is basically dead??? its the 3rd largest city in America with over 780,000 residents in the whole Chicago land area that are of Italian descent. I'm going to find that freaking link from the FBI website where even they say that the Chicago outfit is the single most lucrative Italian organized crime identity in the United States. The report was from 2012. New York is nothing but a bunch of rats who glee for the spot light. Every LCN family has a rat problem but the guys on the east coast have fine tuned it to a perfect art form. How ever Chicago has been able to keep its mouth shut for the most part over all these years minus the family secrets trial a few years back which really did not do much as far as hurting the outfit. The difference between Chicago and New York is Chicago keeps their mouths shut and drives pick up trucks and ball caps to stay under the radar where as New york guys have diarrhea of the mouth, drive fancy cars, where snazzy clothes, and walk around with a billboard that says "hey look at me, I'm a New Yorker and I'm in the mob, now get on your knees and suck my balls because im so awesome"




not too mention that illinois is easily the most crooked state

people seem not to understand the severity of bosses wearing wires or turning state

ny makes people just to keep their numbers up


Why do you worship these guys? like PIzzaboy has pointed out to you several times, these guys hate you because your black, it's that simple. You must be a very strange little man to make up lies to exagerate a criminal group that literally thinks of you as an animal, hilarious.

Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: DBCooper] #763580
02/14/14 08:27 AM
02/14/14 08:27 AM
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Count the made men in a family is very difficult,because the mafia was a secret society,even in the 21th century,thanks to the chart of Pogo the clown,from another site,try to give some numbers on the 5 family and to the other family if is possible.

The Genovese Family 18 capos 126 know made men

Administration:
1. Boss: Vacant
-Ruling Panel: ????? (Possibly Bellomo, Muscarella, Cirillo, Dentico or some combination)
2. UnderBoss: Venero "Benny Eggs" Mangano/92
-Acting UnderBoss: ?????
3. Consiglieri: James "The Little Guy" Ida/73 (IP/L)
-Acting Consiglieri: ?????


Capos:

1. Anthony "Tico" Antico/78 (IP/6/12/2018) – Brooklyn
2. Liborio S. "Barney" Bellomo/56/Ernest Muscarella/70 – Bronx, East Harlem and Manhattan
3. Ludwig "Ninny" Bruschi/79/Anthony “Tony D” Palumbo/64 (IP/11/22/2019) - New Jersey
4. Dominick "Quiet Dom" Cirillo/84 – Manhattan and New Jersey
5. Lawrence "Larry Fab/Little Larry" Dentico/90 - New Jersey and Philly
6. Silvio DeVita/81 - New Jersey
7. Michael “Little Mike” Coppola/66 (IP/3/4/2024)/Michael “Tona” Borelli/76 (Acting) – New Jersey
8. Pasquale “Patty Boy” Falcetti/55 (UI) – Bronx)
9. Rosario “Ross” Gangi/74/Salvatore "Sammy Meatballs" Aparo/83 – Manhattan, Brooklyn and New Jersey
10. Conrad Ianniello/70 (IP)– Brooklyn, Staten Island, Connecticut, Long Island, New Jersey and Florida
11. Albert "Kid Blast" Gallo/84 – Brooklyn
12. Joseph "PePe" LaScala/80 (UI) - The Bronx and New Jersey
13. Daniel “Danny/The Lion” Leo/73 – Bronx and East Harlem
14. Alan "Baldie" Longo/63 - Manhattan, Brooklyn and New Jersey
15. James "Jimmy from 8th Street" Messera/73 – Manhattan and Brooklyn
16. Pasquale "Patsy" Parello/69 - Bronx
17. Anthony "Rom" Romanello/76 – Queens
18. Charles "Chuckie" Tuzzo/80 – Brooklyn


Soldiers:

Elio “Chinatown” Albanese/59
Vincent Alberti/72
Steven “DD” Alfisi/47
Stephen Andretta/72
Vincent Aparo/56
Steven Arena/50
Ralph “The Undertaker” Balsamo/42
John "Johnny Sausages" Barbato/79
Salvatore “Hot Dogs” Battaglia/66
Liborio T. Bellomo/53
Steve Buscemi
Dominick Cappola/84
Robert Carbone/54
Louis “Lou” Casciano/78
Anthony Cerruto/49
Thomas Cestaro/86
Salvatore Cetrullo/68
Junior Cinciolli
Victor Colletti/71 (UI)
Alex Conigliaro/51
Anthony Conigliaro/73
Orlando Coraluzzo/92
Michael Crincoli/51
Gus Curcio/57
John "Blue" Defroscia/48 (UI)
James Delio/56
Carmine Dellacava/55
Daniel Dellisanti/63
Joseph "Joe D" Dente Jr/49
Michael DeLuca/68
Pasquale “Scop” DeLuca/81
Frank Demeo/58
Salvatore Demeo/72
Dominick DeVito/49
Peter "Petey Red" DiChiara/65
Louis DiNapoli/69
Vito DiSalvo/63
Jerry Esposito/75
Salvatore “Zookie” Esposito/76
Vincent Esposito
Anthony "Tough Tony/Tony Parkside" Federici/70
Nicholas “Nicky the Blond” Frustaci/76
John “Little John/Johnny Gags” Gagliardi/69
Lawrence "Larry Glitz" Galizia/60
Andrew Gargiulo/69
Michael "Micky Dimino" Generoso/95
Paul “Slick” Geraci/46
John Giangrande (New Boss)
Joseph Giardina Jr/85
Mario Gigante/88
John "Johnny Bull" Giglio/53
Frank Giovinco/43
Peter Grecco/71
Michael "Mikey Hands" Grisante
Michael Griziosi/78
Nicholas Gruttadauria/64
Gerard “Fat Jerry” Guadagno/70
Joseph "Joey" Ida/77
Angelo Lapi/76
Domick LaPuma
Peter Leconte/43
Onofrio "Malfie" Macchio
Alphonse "Allie Shades" Malangone/73
Frank Malangone/50
Steven Maltese/74
Giuseppe “Little Joe” Manzi/36
Ralph Marino/77
John “Johnny Moose” Marrone/78
James Martino/65
Ron Miceli/56
Robert "The Chef" Milano/60
Frank Monti/66
Ernest “Butch/Green Eyes” Montevecchi
Anthony Negri Sr/72
Dominick Nicastro/53
Joseph "Rudy" Olivieri/58
Daniel “Danny” Pagano/55
Jimmy Perrone
Ciro Perrotta
Rocco “Rocky” Petrozza/52
Anthony “Tony Waterguns” Pisapia/69
Joseph “Joe P” Pontoriero/72
Anthony “Muzzy” Pucciarello/77 (UI)
Frank “Frankie Pugs” Pugliano/83
Nicholas “Nicky” Quardiria
Joseph Queli/66
Michael “Mickey” Ragusa/42
Louis Rizzo Jr/44
Paul Rogina
Carmine "Fish" Romano/72
Vincent “Fish” Romano/75
Anthony “Tony the Guinea” Rotolo/66
Louis Ruggiero/81
Carmine “Baby Carmine” Russo/62
Colombo “Edward” Saggese/80
Charles “Fat Charlie” Salzano/61 (UI)
Rudolph “Ruddy” Santobello/79
Joseph “Joe Sass” Sarcinella/78 (UI)
Michael Sciarra
Charles Trentacosta/47
Robert “Bob” Varicchico
Frank Vasfailo/58
Fred Vigorito/86
Joseph Zito/73
Salvatore “Sal/Moe” Zito


Possible Made Members:
Alexander Cuomo/68
Peter Tomasina/60
Carmine "Johnny Lamps" Saglimbene (2010)


Imprisoned Members:
James Bernardone/46 (IP)
Anthony Fazio Sr/67 (IP/4/23/2023)
Philip Bonadonna/75 (IP/3/15/2015)
Stephen “Beech” DePiro/56 (IP/3/8/2014)
Dominick DeVito/48 (IP/7/04/2013)
Emilio Fusco/44 (IP/5/8/2032)
Federico “Fritzy” Giovanelli/76 (IP)
Alan “Wolshonak” Grecco/66 (IP/10/2/2046)
Salvatore “Sally KO” Larca/45 (IP)
Louis "Bobby" Manna/78 (IP/L)
Arthur "Artie/The Little Guy" Nigro/69 (IP/L)
Dominick “Pepe” Pietranico/83 (IP)
Angelo "The Horn" Prisco/71 (IP/L)
Joseph “Joe Sass” Sarcinella/79 (IP)
Anthony "The Jap" Scaffidi/62 (IP)
Salvester Zarzana/48 (IP)





Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: DBCooper] #763582
02/14/14 08:32 AM
02/14/14 08:32 AM
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The Gambino Family 20 capos 137 know made men

Administration:
1. Boss: Domenico "Italian Dom" Cefalu/64
-Street Panel: Anthony Gurino/70, Giovanni “John” Gambino/75 and Joseph "Sonny" Juliano/75
2. UnderBoss: Frank “Frankie Boy” Cali/46
3. Consiglieri: Bartolomeo “Bobby/Pepe” Vernace/62 (IP)


Capos:

1. Vincent "Vinnie" Artuso/68 (IP/8/20/2016) – Florida
2. Dominick "Big D" Cefalu/57 (UI) - Brooklyn and Long Island
3. Thomas "Tommy Twitch/Sneakers" Cacciopoli/63 - Queens and Westchester
4. Nicholas "Little Nick/The Doctor" Corozzo/71 (IP/3/2/2020)/Leonard "Lenny/The Conductor" DiMaria/71/James “Jimmy Boy” Dellaratta/71 (UI) – Brooklyn, Queens and Florida
5. John "Jackie Nose" D'Amico/76/Ernest "Ernie/Crazy Eyes" Grillo/55 - New Jersey, Manhattan and Brooklyn
6. Louis DeVito/71
7. Joseph "Sonny" Juliano/75/Up Front Panel - Brooklyn
8. Salvatore "Tori" LoCascio/51/Andrew "Andy Campo" Campos/42 – Bronx
9. Lorenzo Maminno/54 - Brooklyn
10. Daniel Marino/70 (IP/8/27/2014) - Brooklyn and Staten Island
11. Joseph "Joe Ox" Marino/88 - Brooklyn
12. Pasquale Marsala - Manhattan and Brooklyn
13. Nicholas “Nicky Mita” Mitarotonda/73 - New Jersey
14. Louis Mastrangelo/69 - Queens and Long Island
15. Michael “Mickey Boy” Paradiso/72 – Queens and Brooklyn
16. Louis "Louie Bracciole" Ricco/82 – Bronx and Westchester
17. John Rizzo Jr. – Brooklyn and Staten Island
18. Carmine “Top Tomato” Sciandra/59 - Staten Island, Brooklyn, Connecticut and Manhattan
19. Alphonse "Funzie" Sisca/69/Louis “Bo” Filippelli/46 - New Jersey and Queens
20. Alphonse Trucchio/35 (IP/4/6/2020) - Queens and Florida


Soldiers:

Carmine Agnello/50
Charles Alaimo/69
Ignaccio "Iggy" Alogna/78
John “Johnny Boy” Ambrosio/65
Mario “Little Mario” Antonicelli/81
Henrico Arduini/86
Charles “Charlie” Aurello
Frank “The Bear” Basto/74
Francesco “Frank” Barranca/83
Gaspare Barranca/75
Pasquale Barrance/85
Vincent Beltempo/75
Joseph “Joe” Bilotti/75
Edward Bonica/85
Jerome "Jerry" Brancato/83
Gaetano Bruno/70
Mario "Lanza" Cassarino/45
Joseph “Joey” Casieri
Peter Castellana/82
Ricardo Cefalu
Joseph "Joe Marco Polo" Chirico/63 (UI)
Anthony "Sonny" Ciccone/78
John Colucciello
Benjamin Coniglia
Pasquale "Patsy" Conte/86
Blaise “Mister” Corozzo/64
Vincent "Vinnie Butch" Corrao/44
Joseph Costa
George "Georgie" DeCicco/82
Vincent "Juicy" DiModica/80
Anthony DeLorenzo/73
John Delutro/59
Alfred "Hot Dog" DiCongilio
Frank “Frankie the Hat” DiStefano
Nicholas “Nicky” Dragonetti
Vincent "Vinny/Marbles" Dragonetti/47 (UI)
Vincent Fiore/45
Joseph “Joe” Franco
Salvatore "Sal" Franco/76
Joseph "Joey Cigars" Francolino Sr/73
Vincenzo “Vinny Carwash” Frogiero/45
Joseph Gallo Jr/67
Giuseppe “Joseph” Gambino
Thomas “Tommy” Gambino/82
Rosario Gambino/69
Salvatore Gambino
John “Johnny G” Gammarano/71
Joseph Gilotti
Richard "Richie" Gotti/71 (UI)
John "Junior" Gotti Jr/49
Michael “Mikey Gal” Guerrieri/85
Stephen "Steve Coogan" Grammauta/97
Francesco Graziano/72
Paul Graziano/66
Francesco Inzerillo
Pietro "Tall Pete" Inzerillo/43 (UI)
Fortunato "Frank" Inzone/66
Joseph Isgro/63
Richard Juliano/71
Joseph LaForte Jr/70
Joseph Lanni/42 (UI)
Nicholas “Nicky” LaSorsa/75
Anthony "Cheeks/Firehawk" Licata/42
Salvatore Lombardo
George Lombardozzi/70
Salvatore Mangialino
Angelo Melli/81
Philip Melli/82
Philip "The Professor" Modica/82
Anthony “Fat Tony” Morelli/70
Peter Mosca/78
Michael Murdocco/68 (UI)
Michael 'Nunzie' Napolitano
Joseph “Joey Boy” Orlando/64
James "Big Guy" Outerie/59 (UI)
Joseph Passanante
Vincent "Vinny Basile" Pacelli/66
Angelo Paccione/74
Giuseppe Pellerito
Salvatore Pisello/88
Anthony “Tony Pro” Proto
Vincenzo Pullaro
David “Little Davie” Rava/78
John “Sonny” Riccobono/74
John Riccobono (Different guy)
John Rizzo/66
Vincent Romano/75 (UI)
Eugene “Buster” Russo
John Santoro Jr/67
Thomas “Monk” Sassano/65
Anthony Scibelli/47 (UI)
Augustus "Gus Boy" Sclafani/73
Joseph Scopo/35
Anthony Scotto/77
William "Big Billy" Scotto/45
John “Johnny Beano” Setaro/61
Salvatore Spatola/79
Alphonso Spitaleri/80
Arnold "Zeke/Bozey" Squitieri/76
Andrew Torregrossa Jr/85
Robert Vaccaro/57
Louis "Big Lou" Vallario/71
August “Augie” Vergalito
Peter “Petey Chops” Viccini
Anthony Vinciullo/76
Anthony Vitta/73
Santo Zito


Imprisoned Members:
Oreste “Ernie Boy” Abbamonte/64 (IP/4/17/2016)
Anthony Bazzini/54 (IP)
Thomas “Huck” Carbonaro/63 (IP/12/24/2065)
Charles “Charlie Carnig” Carneglia/67 (IP/L)
John Carneglia/69 (IP/8/13/2018)
John Casablanca/68 (IP)
John “Jackie” Cavallo/64 (IP/10/3/2014)
Joseph "JoJo/Miserable" Corozzo/71 (IP/1/5/2016)
Edward “Cousin Eddie” Garafola/73 (IP/11/16/2028)
Eugene “Gene” Gotti/67 (IP/9/14/2018)
Peter "One Eye" Gotti/73 (IP/5/05/2032)
Richard Gotti Jr/45 (IP/2/22/2015)
Vincent Gotti/61 (IP/2/22/2015)
Frank "Frankie Loc" LoCascio/78 (IP/L)
Joseph "Joe" Lombardi/73 (IP)
Richard “Ritchie from the Bronx” Martino/51 (IP/8/02/2014)
Anthony "Tony/The Genius" Megale/57 (IP/7/18/2014)
Andrew “Andy Knapik” Merola/44 (IP/6/5/2020)
Onorfio “Noel” Modica/48 (IP/10/7/2018)
Anthony Moscatiello/43 (IP/3/5/2014)
Thomas Orefice/35 (IP/4/8/2017)
William “Old Man Willy/The Grandfather” Pazienza/64 (UI/IP)
Dominick “Skinny Dom” Pizzonia/69 (IP/2/28/2020)
Michael “Roc” Roccaforte/35 (IP/8/14/2019)
Angelo “Little Ange” Ruggiero Jr/41 (IP/12/12/2015)
Michael Scarola/45 (IP)
Joseph "Joey Boy" Sclafani/48 (IP/9/3/2024)
Orazio Stantini/66 (IP/6/03/2017)
Ronald "Ronnie One Arm" Trucchio/60 (IP/L)
Michael “Mikey Y” Yannotti/49 (IP/1/16/2022)

Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: DBCooper] #763584
02/14/14 08:34 AM
02/14/14 08:34 AM
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The Lucchese Family 11 capos 99 know made men

Administration:
1. Boss: Steven "Stevie Wonder/Herbie" Crea/64
2. UnderBoss: ?????
3. Consiglieri: Joseph "Joe C" Caridi/63


Capos:

1. John "Johnny Hooks" Capra/70 - Bronx
2. John “Big John” Castellucci/52 - Brooklyn
3. Joseph “Big Joe” DiNapoli/76 (UI) - Bronx
4. Andrew DiSimone/50 - Westchester and the Bronx
5. Joseph "Joey" Giampa/70 – Bronx and New Jersey
6. Joseph "Big Joey" Lubrano/41 (IP/10/31/2014)/Carlo Profeta/70 - Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island and the Bronx
7. Matthew Madonna/76 (UI) – Bronx
8. Aniello "Neil" Migliore/76 – Manhattan, Long Island and Florida
9. Ralph Perna/64 (UI) – New Jersey
10. Dominic "Crazy Dom" Truscello/76/Vincent "Vinny Casablanca" Mancione/50/Anthony Croce/79 – Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island and Long Island
11. Anthony "Blue Eyes" Santorelli/65 – Brooklyn and the Bronx


Soldiers:
Carmine Accardi/68
Anthony Accetturo Jr.
Thomas “Tommy Red” Anzellotto
Carmine Avellino/63
Salvatore Avellino/76
Anthony “Bowatt” Baratta/74
Frank Bassi/78
Jody Calabrese/45
Dominick Capelli/56
Michael “Mikey Cap” Capra/71
Robert "Bucky the Boss" Caravaggio/68
Eugene "Bubsie" Castelle/51
John "Johnny Sideburns" Cerrella/71
John Conti/73
Michael “Mikey Bones” Corcione/72
Steven Crea Jr.
Domenico "Danny" Cutaia/76
Thomas "Fat Tommy" D'Ambrosia/64
Joseph “Big Joe” Datello/58 (UI)
Angelo Defendis/75
Pasqual "Patty" DeLarosso
Peter "Petey" DelCioppo/75
Richard DeLuca/74
Philip DeSimone/59
Michael “Mike” DeSantis/56
Joseph "Little Joe" DiBenedetto/40
Nicholas “Fat Nicky” DiConstanza
Anthony DiMeglio/75
Salvatore “Sally Bow” DiSimone
Joseph "The Ironworker" Fama/43
John "Johnny Blue" Ferreri/72
Thomas "Tommy" Gelardo/66
Scott Gervasi/43
Frank "Fat Frank" Giacobbe/52
Michael Guierriero/55 (UI)
Anthony LaSorsa/75
Frank "Big Frank" Lastorino/69
Paul LoDuca/68
John “Blackie” Mangrella/67 (UI)
Leonard Mangiapane/69
Pasquale A. Maselli/85
Marco Minuto/44
Frank Moia/73
Enzo Napole
Joseph M. “Little Joe” Perna/40 (UI)
Joseph R. Perna
John Perna/32 (UI)
Anthony "Razor" Pezzullo/59
Carlo Piccioli/78
Carmelo “Carlo” Propetta/67
Daniel Rizzo/64
Antonio “Curly” Russo/73 (UI)
Alfred Santorelli
John Sorrentino Sr/63
John Sorrentino Jr.
Carlo Taccetta/35
Joseph "Torty Jr." Tortorello/48
Joseph "JoJo" Truncale/77
Ralph Tutino/80
John “Johnny V” Vanasco/65
Peter “Rugsy” Vario/72
Peter “Butch/Jocko” Vario/64
Anthony Villani Jr/48
Rocco Vitulli/48
Joseph Zaffuto
Arthur Zambardi


Imprisoned Members:
Vittorio"Vic the Terminator" Amuso/77 (IP/L)
Ray Argentina/54 (IP/10/04/2024)
John Baudanza/41 (IP/8/2/2015)
George "George Goggles" Conte/51 (IP/3/10/2014)
Joseph "Joey Blue Eyes" Cosentino/66 (IP/L)
Salvatore Cutaia/52 (IP/8/22/2016)
Louis "Crossbay Louie/Bagels" Daidone/62 (IP/L)
Frank “Frankie Pearls” Federico/80 (IP/2/20/2016)
Christopher "Christy Ticks" Furnari/89 (IP/11/24/2044)
James “Froggy” Galione/48 (IP/12/24/2015)
Anthony Magana/52 (IP/L)
Joseph Massaro/70 (IP/L)
Frank "Frankie Bones" Papagni/54 (IP/11/24/2015)
Michael Perna/66 (IP/8/02/2015)
John "Fat Face/Johnny Boy" Petrucelli/36 (IP/L)
Nicodemo "Nicky Jr." Scarfo Jr/47 (UI/IP)
Anthony Senter/55 (IP/10/13/2032)
Michael “Baldy Mike” Spinelli/54 (IP/1/03/2029)
Martin “Marty” Taccetta/57 (UI/IP)
Michael “Mad Dog” Taccetta/65 (IP/6/10/2014)
Joseph "Joey Flowers" Tangorra/58 (IP/12/09/2014)
Joseph “Joey” Testa/53 (IP/10/23/2032)
George "Georgie Neck" Zappola/49 (IP/3/03/2014)

Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: DBCooper] #763587
02/14/14 08:39 AM
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The Bonanno Family 15 capos 85 know made men

Administration:
1. Boss: Michael "Mikey Nose" Mancuso/59 (IP/3/12/2019)
-Acting Boss: Thomas “Tommy D” DiFiore/70 (UI/IP)
2. Underboss: Thomas “Tommy D” DiFiore/70 (UI/IP)
-Acting UnderBoss: ?????
3. Consiglieri: ????? (Possibly Vacant)


Capos:

1. Sandro Aiosa/70 - Brooklyn
2. Jerome “Jerry” Asaro/55 (UI/IP)/Giacomo “Jack” Bonventre/45 (UI) - Queens
3. Vincenzo Asaro/78 (UI/IP) - Queens
4. Vincent "Vinny T.V." Badalamenti/55/Vito Balsamo/57 - Brooklyn and Staten Island
5. Joseph Cammarano Jr/53 – Brooklyn
6. Gerard "Jerry" Chilli/77 (IP)/John “Big John” Contello/60 – Staten Island and Florida
7. Louis “Louie Electric” DeCicco/67/Anthony "Little Anthony" Pepitone/40 – Brooklyn, Long Island and Queens
8. Anthony “The Hat/Walker” Frascone/64 (UI)/John “Johnny Joe” Spirito Jr. - Bronx, Queens and Long Island
9. Anthony "Tony Black" Furino/58 - Staten Island
10. Joseph "Joe Lefty" Loiacono/67 (Acting) - Brooklyn, Staten Island, Manhattan, Queens and Florida
11. Anthony "Elmont" Mannone/69 – Brooklyn and Long Island
12. Anthony "Fat Anthony/Mr. Fish" Rabito/79 – Queens and Manhattan
13. Nicholas "Nicky Mouth" Santora/71 (UI/IP)/Ernest Aeillo/34 (UI)/Vito Badamo/51 (UI) – Brooklyn and Long Island
14. Joseph "Sammy" Sammartino-58 - New Jersey
15. Anthony "Scal" Sclafani/67 (IP/2/4/2014) - Staten Island


Soldiers:

Frank Adamo
Alfred Altadonna
Vincent "Elmo" Amarante/61 (UI)
Vito Badamo Sr/81
Vincent “Vinny” Basciano Jr/31 (UI)
Antonio Bonventre
Anthony Calabrese/45
John Caltagirone/79
Michael “Mikey Batts” Cardello/70
Ronald “Ronnie Mozzarella” Carlucci/67
Salvatore “ToTo” Catalano/68
Joseph Chilli III/57
John Cicala
Peter “Petey Boxcars” Cosoleto/66
Frank Coppa Jr.
Perry Criscitelli/64
Vincent D'Antonio
Pino D’Aquanno
Michael “Mike Box” DiMaria
Vincent “Vinny Bionics” DiSario/49
Joseph “Joe Shakes” DiStefano/55
Simone Esposito/37
James Galante/71
James Genna/77
Ronald Giallanzo/43
Anthony "T.G." Graziano/72
Joseph Grimaldi
Vito Grimaldi/70
Anthony Guarino (UI)
Joseph "J.B." Indelicato/801
John Licata/70
Joseph Lino/49
Ronald “Ronnie” Lorenzo
Salvatore Maiorino/82
Pasquale Maiorino/49
Salvatore Marchese/80
John “Johnny Boy” Mirabile
Anthony Navarra/38
Philip Navarra/40
John Palazzolo/75
Michael Palmaccio/40 (UI)
Anthony Parisi/80
Frank “Big Frank” Pastore/41
Guiseppe Pizzo/80
Salvatore Ponico
Frank "The Fireman/Big Frank" Porco/82
Michael Primiano/65
Salvatore Puccio/42
Armando “Mondo” Rea/59
Richard “Big Ritchie” Riccardi/63
William "Willie Glasses" Riviello/75
Joseph Sabella/47
Ronald Scala/64
John "Johnny Mulberry" Sciremammano/53
Joseph Taglianetti/74
Arthur "Harvey" Tarzia/50
Joseph Torre/60
Charles "Crazy Charlie" Travella/68
Joseph Yannucci
John "Porky" Zancocchio/53


Imprisoned Members:
Anthony “Ace/T” Aiello/36 (IP/5/06/2031)
Baldassare “Baldo” Amato/56 (IP/L)
Louis "Louie HAHA" Attanasio/64 (IP/1/23/2018)
Robert "Bobby HAHA/Big Bobby" Attanasio/62 (IP/6/05/2015)
Vincent "Vinny Gorgeous" Basciano/51 (IP/L)
Peter ‘Peter Rabbit” Calabrese/63 (IP/2/13/2017)
Michael Cassese/42 (IP/5/22/2014)
Fabrizio "The Herder" DeFrancisci (IP)
Joseph "Joe Desi" DeSimone/74 (IP/7/04/2014)
Anthony “Little Anthony” Donato/50 (IP/8/29/2026)
Vincent “Vinny” Faraci/58 (IP)
Gino Galestro/41 (IP/11/10/2023)
Anthony “Bruno” Indelicato/65 (IP/9/28/2023)
Robert "Little Robert" Lino/44 (2/2/2028)
Stephen “Stevie Blue” LoCurto/47 (IP/L)
Peter Lovaglio/51 (IP/3/5/2015)
Bari Mascitti/67 (IP/3/3/2014)
Daniel “Dirty Danny/DeDe” Mongelli/44 (IP/12/06/2023)
Thomas "Tommy Karate" Pitera/54 (IP/L)
John “Bazoo” Ragano/52 (UI/IP)
Louis Restivo/73 (IP/5/07/2014)
Anthony “Skinny” Santoro/50 (UI/IP)
Paul “Fat Paulie” Spina/57 (IP/12/19/2016)
John “Johnny Joe” Spirito/54 (IP/1/18/2021)
Anthony "Tony Green" Urso/76 (12/05/2021)

Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: DBCooper] #763590
02/14/14 08:42 AM
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The Colombo Family 8 capos 76 know made men (not sure,many of them maybe be inactive)

Administration:
1. Boss: Carmine "Junior/The Snake" Persico/80 (IP/L)
-Acting Boss: Andrew "Andy Mush" Russo/79
2. UnderBoss: John "Sonny" Franzese/96 (IP/6/25/2017)
-Acting UnderBoss: Dominic "Donny Shacks" Montemarano/75
3. Consiglieri: ?????
-Acting Consiglieri: Thomas “Tom Mix/Mr. T” Farese/71


Capos:

1. Joseph Baudanza/69/Luca DiMatteo/69 (Acting) - Brooklyn, Manhattan and Staten Island
2. Benjamin "The Little Guy/Claw" Castellazzo/76 (IP/8/15/2015) - Brooklyn and the Bronx
3. Dennis "Fat/Little/The Beard" DeLucia/72 - Brooklyn and the Bronx
4. Thomas “Tom Mix/Mr. T” Farese/71 – South Florida
5. Thomas "Tommy Bop/Shots" Gioeli/61 (IP) – Brooklyn, Staten Island and Long Island
6. Ralph Lombardo/83 – Brooklyn, Queens and Long Island
7. Theodore "Teddy/Skinny" Persico Jr/50 (UI/IP) - Brooklyn
8. Michael Uvino/48 (IP/6/5/2016)/Michael Catapano/50 (IP/5/1/2016) – Brooklyn and Long Island


Soldiers: (Some of these guys are no longer active)

Vincent "Vinny" Aloi/84
Joseph Amato/53
Joseph “Chubby” Audino/69
Salvatore “Sally Bread” Cambria
Frank “Campy” Campanella/56 (UI)
Richard “The Jeweller” Capichano/67
Thomas Capelli
Robert “Bobby Bibbs” Cassamassino/69
Vincent Cascio/69
Alphonse Cirillo/77
Gerard “Jerry Green Eyes” Clamenza/56
James Clamenza
Anthony Colombo/63
Joseph Colombo Jr/62 (UI)
Anthony “Funzied” D’Ambrosia
Andre D'Apice/38
Andrew D’Apice/83
Dennis DeLucia/66
Robert “Rob” Donofrio/51
Vincent “Jimmy Gooch” Febbraro/79
Michael “Mikey” Ferrara
Salvatore Fusco Jr/46
Joseph "Joe Notch" Iannaci/77
Anthony Induisi/59
Frank “Chickie” Leto/76
Salvatore "Tutti" Lombardino Jr/78
Joseph Lupo/85
John Maggio/50
James Malpeso
Anthony Maltese/87
Salvatore Mangiamelli/79
Vincent Manzo/73
Victor Orena Jr/53
John Orena
Charles “Charlie Moose” Panarella/92 (UI)
Daniel “Danny” Persico/50
Theodore “Teddy” Persico Sr/75
Thomas Petrizzo/79
Francesco “Frankie P/Cap" Polito/57 (UI)
Salvatore “Sally Pro” Profaci/73
Vincent "Vinny Unions/Three Fingers" Ricciardo/62
John Rossatti
William “Billy” Russo/50
Frank “Frankie the Bug” Sciortino/81
Gus “Buddy” Spatafora/71
John S-------
Anthony Stropoli/47
Joseph "Joe T" Tomasello/75
Joseph “Joe” Tolino
Joseph Zorzi/79


Possible Members:
Dominick LoGazzo
Angelo Marone
Phil LNU


Imprisoned Members:
Pasquale Amato/75 (IP/L)
Dominick Bretti/76 (IP/L)
Joel "Waverly" Cacace/69 (U/IP/6/24/2020)
Aurelio “Ray” Cagno/67 (IP/L)
Daniel Capaldo/47 (IP/11/01/2015)
Ralph DeLeo/69 (IP/10/2/2025)
Vincent “Chickie” DeMartino/52 (IP/1/01/2025)
John "Jackie" DeRoss/73 (IP/L)
Emanuele “Manny” Favuzza/54 (IP/2/26/2016)
Joseph “Joe Legs” Legrano/66 (IP/12/31/2018)
Angelo Leto (IP)
Craig Marino/41 (IP/9/08/2016)
Joseph “Joe Monte” Monteleone/71 (IP/L)
Victor “Little Vic” Orena/75 (IP/L)
Alphonse "Little Allie Boy" Persico/58 (IP/L)
Nicky Rizzo/86 (IP/4/9/2014)
Anthony "Chucky" Russo/55 (IP/L)
Dino “Little Dino” Saracino/41 (IP)
Joseph Savarese/50 (IP/2/16/2020)
Illario “Fat Larry” Sessa/46 (IP/6/7/2017)
Michael Sessa/50 (IP/L)
Gregory "Greg" Scarpa Jr/56 (IP/10/17/2035)
Robert "Bobby Zam" Zambardi/71 (IP/12/02/2015)

Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: TommyGambino] #763591
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: Dago_From_Chicago
I take it little nickey does not like Chicago lol. I think the outfit wished EVERYONE thought like you. How could anyone be so naive to think Chicago is basically dead??? its the 3rd largest city in America with over 780,000 residents in the whole Chicago land area that are of Italian descent. I'm going to find that freaking link from the FBI website where even they say that the Chicago outfit is the single most lucrative Italian organized crime identity in the United States. The report was from 2012. New York is nothing but a bunch of rats who glee for the spot light. Every LCN family has a rat problem but the guys on the east coast have fine tuned it to a perfect art form. How ever Chicago has been able to keep its mouth shut for the most part over all these years minus the family secrets trial a few years back which really did not do much as far as hurting the outfit. The difference between Chicago and New York is Chicago keeps their mouths shut and drives pick up trucks and ball caps to stay under the radar where as New york guys have diarrhea of the mouth, drive fancy cars, where snazzy clothes, and walk around with a billboard that says "hey look at me, I'm a New Yorker and I'm in the mob, now get on your knees and suck my balls because im so awesome"




not too mention that illinois is easily the most crooked state

people seem not to understand the severity of bosses wearing wires or turning state

ny makes people just to keep their numbers up


Why do you worship these guys? like PIzzaboy has pointed out to you several times, these guys hate you because your black, it's that simple. You must be a very strange little man to make up lies to exagerate a criminal group that literally thinks of you as an animal, hilarious.



who the fuck are you?

the only thing i like about sam giancana is his qoute about teddy roe and his death photo

u people need to learn to think outside the box, everything ain't black/white

Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: DBCooper] #763593
02/14/14 08:46 AM
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The Cavalcante Family 3 capos know made men 37 mademen

Boss: John "The Eagle/Uncle John" Riggi/85
Underboss: Joseph Miranda/86
Consigliere: Stefano "Steve the Truck Driver" Vitabile/74 (IP/11/24/2013)


Captains:

1. Philip Abramo/64 (IP/1/21/2018)
2. Joseph "Uncle Joe" Giaccobe
3. Giuseppe "Pino" Schifilliti/71 (IP/11/30/2015)


Soldiers:

1. Gaetano Alessi
2. Jerry Balzano
3. Daniel "Danny" Annunziata
4. Anthony DeMaio Sr.
5. James Castaldo/53
6. Amelio Cocchiaro
7. Rosario “Russell” Cocchiaro/68
8. Joseph Collina/62
9. Louis "Louie Eggs" Consalvo/52
10. Carl Corsentino
11. Nicholas “Nick” Cottone
12. Frank D'Amato/62
13. James Gallo/65 (IP/12/22/2021)
14. Francesco “Joe” Gatto/68
15. Leonardo “Larry” Giacobbe
16. Francesco “Frank” Guarraci/55 (UI)
17. Girolamo Guarraggi
18. Charles "Fat Charlie/Big Ears" Majuri/69
19. Anthony "Marshmallow" Mannarino/64
20. Mimmo Marzullo
21. Joseph Merlo Jr/70
22. Joseph “Joey” Merlo III/41
23. Michael Merlo/49
24. Joseph Miglorato
25. Frank Nigro/67
26. Robert "Bobby Basile" Occhipiti
27. Girolamo "Jimmy Gumps" Palermo/72
28. Francesco Paparatto/75
29. Salvatore “Sal” Polizzi
30. Gregory Rago/50 (IP/11/15/2014)
31. Emmanuel "Manny" Riggi
32. John "Junior" Riggi/58
33. Vincent Riggi/58
34. Joseph "Tin Ear" Sclafani/72
35. Charles "Charlie the Hat" Stango
36. Salvatore Timpani
37. Gaetano "Corky" Vastola


Possible Members:
Joseph Venditti

Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: DBCooper] #763600
02/14/14 09:03 AM
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@ Huronathletic:
Stooge idiots? My my. Name calling now. They say if you have to resort to violence...

The stooge idiots are not yours sadly. They are you n your Chicago fan boy clique who make ridiculous claims such as: Chicago number 3 in the US, Chicago LCN earns more than any othe NA LCN etc, etc.

It's simple, don't make ridiculous claims, and you won't get a spanking.
We're only responding to the bed you made. You have to sleep in it.

Hint: Facts are fun!

Last edited by SonnyBlackstein; 02/14/14 09:04 AM.

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CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #763608
02/14/14 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
@ Huronathletic:
Stooge idiots? My my. Name calling now. They say if you have to resort to violence...

The stooge idiots are not yours sadly. They are you n your Chicago fan boy clique who make ridiculous claims such as: Chicago number 3 in the US, Chicago LCN earns more than any othe NA LCN etc, etc.

It's simple, don't make ridiculous claims, and you won't get a spanking.
We're only responding to the bed you made. You have to sleep in it.

Hint: Facts are fun!


Yack yack yack, sit the fuck down & compose yourself.

Neither of you clowns has provided anything by way of facts.

Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: DBCooper] #763616
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Thats right Dago, the most lucrative LCN in the country has 1/2 FBI squad devoted to it (or less considering its east European focus now). There are more field agents devoted to the Philadelphia mafia, which is by all accounts a highly dysfunction family in decline. And at least Philly can display a pattern of behavior over the last 8 years through indictments, something Chicago does not have.

Apparently you guys know something the FBI and the US Attorney's Office doesn't. Please share.

Last edited by LittleNicky; 02/14/14 10:24 AM.

Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #763635
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Huron and the Arm.

Next all we need is cookcounty and we'll have a trifecta.

Question: why do you think nearly all relative authorities, overwhelming majority of quite knowledgable posters here and on similar blogs coupled with the FB friggen EYE all purport the same conclusion regards the Windy City EXCEPT you three who apparently know better than everyone?

Is it conceit, arrogance, wishful thinking or stupidity which leads you to think you KNOW more than EVERYBODY else?

And in case you were wondering. That was rhetorical.


Lets start from the beginning....with the FB friggen EYE...the root of your misconcepetions.
Quite simply, they lie.
Not only DO they lie, the went to the SUPREME FRRIGGIN COURT OF THE US and responded to a suit for the right to lie in both their classified and public documents...In short, the info they publish is meaningless....you guys puking it back and posting it is equally meaningless
I have explained my background, I have explained what I do and do not say in internet venues like this and why. The people you read about I know or am a degree or two away from knowing...Hope this helps

For the record, I am not a "Chicago fan"...Circumstances brought me to Cook County and yes, when I came here, not being stupid, I reaquanted myself with some old associations and made the right contacts. Why the fuck wouldnt I?
Some people question why I have info on the Colombos, Buffalo, Chicago, Rockford and other places. Here is a hint, I dont get it from FBI decoy misinfo, or from internet tabloid bullshitters. I know what I know from being in and around those places, the people in them, and being in and around the life for almost 40 years.

Last edited by TheArm; 02/14/14 02:27 PM.

Been there and done it
I am very much for real, so if you ask, make sure you really want to know.
Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #763665
02/14/14 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic


Yack yack yack, sit the fuck down & compose yourself.

Neither of you clowns has provided anything by way of facts.


Again with the name calling?

I'm not the one making the assertions my friend.
This is how it works. Make statement, back it up. Don't make statement, don't back up.
See?

No need to get embarrassed now. We all make mistakes.

At 'TheArm': logically whom do you think I/readers here should believe?
A) The largest law enforcement agency in the country (probably the world) with tens of thousands of agents and billions of dollars coupled with the overwhelming majority of general authorities on subject.
Or
B) You. An internet poster who claims there's still a massive unseen unknown to ANYONE LCN conspiracy?

See where I'm going?

But I see we're going in circles here so rather a moot point to continue.

Though I do admire both of your stubbornness in the face of overwhelming consensus.


MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #763668
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic


Yack yack yack, sit the fuck down & compose yourself.

Neither of you clowns has provided anything by way of facts.


Again with the name calling?

I'm not the one making the assertions my friend.
This is how it works. Make statement, back it up. Don't make statement, don't back up.
See?

No need to get embarrassed now. We all make mistakes.

At 'TheArm': logically whom do you think I/readers here should believe?
A) The largest law enforcement agency in the country (probably the world) with tens of thousands of agents and billions of dollars coupled with the overwhelming majority of general authorities on subject.
Or
B) You. An internet poster who claims there's still a massive unseen unknown to ANYONE LCN conspiracy?

See where I'm going?

But I see we're going in circles here so rather a moot point to continue.

Though I do admire both of your stubbornness in the face of overwhelming consensus.


First...What part of misinformation is a part of the FBI's investigation tactics, so much so they went to the surpreme court to have their right to use it litigated do you NOT understand?
Second...There is no conspiracy
Third...It may be unseen to YOU, but it is not unseen to people close to it.
Who should you beleive?
Really?
I TOLD you, I do not have a dog in the NY vs Chicago pissing contest, I am simply stating facts.

Last edited by TheArm; 02/14/14 03:42 PM.

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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: DBCooper] #763672
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The FBI is not able to hide indictments or pending court cases. The mention of the SUPREME COURT is a retarded red hearing. Family Secerts came down in 2005, since then how many indictments have targeted the chicago?

So I ask again, is there a currently functioning, major family today that has been about to go almost a decade without any indictments against made members?

You are asking us to believe that not only is the FBI and the US Attorney's Office flat out wrong- but that these Chicago guys are smarter and more efficient the sleekest, most secerative, best run genovese family.

Everything points not to a major, ultra-efficient conspiracy, but a MAJOR slow down in blue collar LCN activity.

Last edited by LittleNicky; 02/14/14 03:55 PM.

Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today [Re: LittleNicky] #763673
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Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
The FBI is not able to hide indictments or pending court cases. The mention of the SUPREME COURT is a retarded red hearing. Family Secerts came down in 2005, since then how many indictments have targeted the chicago?

So I ask again, is there a currently functioning, major family today that has been about to go almost a decade without any major indictments (soldiers/capos)?

You are asking us to believe that not only is the FBI and the US Attorney's Office flat out wrong- but that these Chicago guys are smarter and more efficient the sleekest, most secerative, best run genovese family.



Let put this as simply as I can...Chicago learned lessons from past mass indictments,
NY didnt and hasn't. It's still living in 1950 and is full of rats, and guys at low levels are still privy to high level information.
Since family secrets that have become leaner, smaller, smarter and about 60% legit.
What is NOT legit are rackets associated with the legitamate businesses, real estate, Construction,the Adult industry, Legal gambling, etc, along with some Shy and street tax.
The Boss-Underbooss-Capo syetem is done in Chicago, that's why there is no one with a target on his back.
It has been replaced by a system of skippers, and street bosses and communications passed between crews and the hiachey on a need to know basis.
The SCOTUS ruling on deception in classified and public documents is far from a read herring. It means that what you read and hear from them is calculated misinformation mixed with truth for 2 reasons, one to decoy reaction and chatter, and the other to detect leaks.

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The FBI is not able to hide indictments or pending court cases. The mention of the SUPREME COURT is a retarded red hearing. Family Secerts came down in 2005, since then how many indictments have targeted the chicago?

So I ask again, is there a currently functioning, major family today that has been about to go almost a decade without any major indictments (soldiers/capos)?

You are asking us to believe that not only is the FBI and the US Attorney's Office flat out wrong- but that these Chicago guys are smarter and more efficient the sleekest, most secerative, best run genovese family.



Let put this as simply as I can...Chicago learned lessons from past mass indictments,
NY didnt and hasn't. It's still living in 1950 and is full of rats, and guys at low levels are still privy to high level information.
Since family secrets that have become leaner, smaller, smarter and about 60% legit.
What is NOT legit are rackets associated with the legitamate businesses, real estate, Construction,the Adult industry, Legal gambling, etc, along with some Shy and street tax.
The Boss-Underbooss-Capo syetem is done in Chicago, that's why there is no one with a target on his back.
It has been replaced by a system of skippers, and street bosses and communications passed between crews and the hiachey on a need to know basis.
The SCOTUS ruling on deception in classified and public documents is far from a read herring. It means that what you read and hear from them is calculated misinformation mixed with truth for 2 reasons, one to decoy reaction and chatter, and the other to detect leaks.


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Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
The FBI is not able to hide indictments or pending court cases. The mention of the SUPREME COURT is a retarded red hearing. Family Secerts came down in 2005, since then how many indictments have targeted the chicago?

So I ask again, is there a currently functioning, major family today that has been about to go almost a decade without any major indictments (soldiers/capos)?

You are asking us to believe that not only is the FBI and the US Attorney's Office flat out wrong- but that these Chicago guys are smarter and more efficient the sleekest, most secerative, best run genovese family.



Let put this as simply as I can...Chicago learned lessons from past mass indictments,
NY didnt and hasn't. It's still living in 1950 and is full of rats, and guys at low levels are still privy to high level information.
Since family secrets that have become leaner, smaller, smarter and about 60% legit.
What is NOT legit are rackets associated with the legitamate businesses, real estate, Construction,the Adult industry, Legal gambling, etc, along with some Shy and street tax.
The Boss-Underbooss-Capo syetem is done in Chicago, that's why there is no one with a target on his back.
It has been replaced by a system of skippers, and street bosses and communications passed between crews and the hiachey on a need to know basis.
Their little brother Rockford learned some things to, and has reinvented itself so far under the Radar thatthat the FBI says on one hand it doesnt exist, but on the other hand has a leadership listed. Make no mistake, they are not confused. Again, it is a time tested tactic to draw out chatter and instill false confidence
The SCOTUS ruling on deception in classified and public documents is far from a red herring. It means that what you read and hear from them is calculated misinformation mixed with truth for 2 reasons, one to decoy reaction and chatter, and the other to detect leaks.


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Originally Posted By: TheArm
Let put this as simply as I can...Chicago learned lessons from past mass indictments,
NY didnt and hasn't. It's still living in 1950 and is full of rats, and guys at low levels are still privy to high level information.
Since family secrets that have become leaner, smaller, smarter and about 60% legit.
What is NOT legit are rackets associated with the legitamate businesses, real estate, Construction,the Adult industry, Legal gambling, etc, along with some Shy and street tax.
The Boss-Underbooss-Capo syetem is done in Chicago, that's why there is no one with a target on his back.
It has been replaced by a system of skippers, and street bosses and communications passed between crews and the hiachey on a need to know basis.
The SCOTUS ruling on deception in classified and public documents is far from a read herring. It means that what you read and hear from them is calculated misinformation mixed with truth for 2 reasons, one to decoy reaction and chatter, and the other to detect leaks.

except for buffalo of course, right? wink

another funny thing about you and your chicago claims with regards to how secretive they are: you claim to be a former low-level buffalo associate, so how the hell would you be privy to this inside information? are you just that "standup" that you were given access? with the claims you've made about your personal inside knowledge of buffalo, chicago, rockford, milwaukee, and best of all pittsburg still going strong with 3 capos and 20+ made guys, it might be best to start listing the families that you haven't had any working relationships with for the sake of some of the serious posters. lol


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Originally Posted By: TheArm
Let put this as simply as I can...Chicago learned lessons from past mass indictments,
NY didnt and hasn't. It's still living in 1950 and is full of rats, and guys at low levels are still privy to high level information.
Since family secrets that have become leaner, smaller, smarter and about 60% legit.
What is NOT legit are rackets associated with the legitamate businesses, real estate, Construction,the Adult industry, Legal gambling, etc, along with some Shy and street tax.
The Boss-Underbooss-Capo syetem is done in Chicago, that's why there is no one with a target on his back.
It has been replaced by a system of skippers, and street bosses and communications passed between crews and the hiachey on a need to know basis.
The SCOTUS ruling on deception in classified and public documents is far from a read herring. It means that what you read and hear from them is calculated misinformation mixed with truth for 2 reasons, one to decoy reaction and chatter, and the other to detect leaks.

except for buffalo of course, right? wink

another funny thing about you and your chicago claims with regards to how secretive they are: you claim to be a former low-level buffalo associate, so how the hell would you be privy to this inside information? are you just that "standup" that you were given access? with the claims you've made about your personal inside knowledge of buffalo, chicago, rockford, milwaukee, and best of all pittsburg still going strong with 3 capos and 20+ made guys, it might be best to start listing the families that you haven't had any working relationships with for the sake of some of the serious posters. lol


Son, you have no idea who I have and have not had working relationships with, legit or otherwise. You are one who seems to think family association is particioned and exists in a vacume. Don't fel too bad son, it is a common misconception.
When I was "active" I lived in a city with a Bufalo, Scranton and Colombo presence, not to mention rogue Rochester malcontents with Pittsburgh's guys attached to their hip.I have lived in Cook County for 20 years and you bet you ass I sured up my contacts befiore moving here. I have family in Independence Louisiana, so I met some old time Nawlin's guys.
Over the course of 40 years you get to know people, and family affiliation means nothing. I have been to weedings and funerls where I have been introduced as a "friend of mine" more times then I can stand. I am not unique. Anyone with my level of connection would tell you the same thing.
As for "inside information, I have given almost none, you just think it's inside information becuse you get your news from internet sites full of wannabe Mafia hiostorians and the bullshit the FBI puts out.
Who do or did I never have much or any contact with?
LA
SJ
KC (Other then meeting Tuffy DeLuna as a kid)
Denver
Frisco
None

Detroit,
Gambino,
Tampa
very little

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It doesn't matter how insulated the hierarchy is. You cannot commit a decade of blue collar LCN-type crime without having many associates and a few soldiers indicted. By there very nature these low level folks get their hands dirty- unless chicago has managed to do away with that as well. Even during the best modern runs (the Chin, Massino, Uncle Joe, Steve Crea) have had some pattern of indictments for low level operators. It speaks well of your organization when indictments happen but only to lower level guys, and they either stand up or have very little information on other crews. When even basic associates don't get indicted- it speaks only to the fact there is very little activity happening.

You cant point to a single historical example of this complete lack of the indictment activity happening. Especially if we are talking post-1970s FBI techniques.

You are just a huge bullshitter that pulls "im connected" anyone even starts scratching the surface of your absurd claims.

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Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
It doesn't matter how insulated the hierarchy is. You cannot commit a decade of blue collar LCN-type crime without having many associates and a few soldiers indicted. Even during the best modern runs (the Chin, Massino, Uncle Joe, Steve Crea) have had some pattern of indictments for low level operators.

You cant point to a single historical example of this complete lack of the indictment activity happening. Especially if we are talking post-1970s FBI techniques.

You are just a huge bullshitter that pulls "im connected" anyone even starts scratching the surface of your absurd claims.


Actually no...you are a know nothing chump who thinks histrory can be told in a snapshot, trusts a source who openly admits their information is not to be trusted, and is so far from the street and the places you claim to know about, you have no idea what goes on in plain site there. A simple dribe down North Avenue would be enough for anyone, even someone not interested in these matters, to know a litle something about what is happening.
"Knowing" something is one thing, having enough for indictments is another. How the fuck long did you think the family secrets investgationwent on before the indictments came down?
Since post 1970?
The crew I became a part of ran with impunity from 1968 till almost 1990 with NO one, i'll sayn it again, NO one getting pinched or indicted.
get a clue son

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Thats because you can't name a single occurrence of it happening. Even the smoothest and best orgnaization have low level operators indicted- because by there very nature they do the dirty work. But apparently even their low level guys have some sort of unseen magical abilities.

There were plenty of indictments between 2000 and 2005. Indicating activity. Not so much after Family Secrets. That's the difference.


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
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Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
Thats because you can't name a single occurrence of it happening. Even the smoothest and best orgnaization have low level operators indicted- because by there very nature they do the dirty work. But apparently even their low level guys have some sort of unseen magical abilities.

There were plenty of indictments between 2000 and 2005. Indicating activity. Not so much after Family Secrets. That's the difference.


I just gave you one of many examples, and I already explained to you why things have been quiet since family secrets. Short of crayons and paper puppets, I don't see how I can make it much more clear.
My advice, if you want an opinion that makes sense, come to Chicago, the chicago burbs and rockford and take a look around.
See the Cherry picked properties being slated for demolition in Rockford and which areas are being gentrified and find out who owwns them, go to any gentlemens club in the area and see the evidence of human trafficing and prostitution, Go to the fish fry at St Ambrogiois or Cappys in Winnebago or to Tigers bar on a Saterday night and be a fly on the wall, Go up Harlem avenue, North avenue and Grand Avenue and just look around with a curios eye, or go to any bar in stone park and observe....then you might be qualified to have an opinion

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Guys connected with the mob make a living at lying, cheating, and stealing - I'm not so inclined that they are a better source of information than the feds. How well do you trust your sources? Since you claim to have first-hand knowledge, there is a chance you may be naturally and unwittingly inflating the importance of your associates and their activities. Similar to an Iraqi or Desert Storm vet seeing some action and thinking it was the most frightening thing imaginable when there are vets from WWII and Nam with stories that put the others to shame. It's all a matter of perspective.

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Originally Posted By: Snakes
Guys connected with the mob make a living at lying, cheating, and stealing - I'm not so inclined that they are a better source of information than the feds. How well do you trust your sources? Since you claim to have first-hand knowledge, there is a chance you may be naturally and unwittingly inflating the importance of your associates and their activities. Similar to an Iraqi or Desert Storm vet seeing some action and thinking it was the most frightening thing imaginable when there are vets from WWII and Nam with stories that put the others to shame. It's all a matter of perspective.


I never claimed to be made, I never claimed to have broken bread with bosses, and I never claimed to be any more connected then I am.
I was a low to mid level associate,but becuse of my family history and the fact that I was looking at RICO and the loss of my freedom till iold age and never flipped a lot of doors were and are open to me that might not have been otherwise.
I was looking at RICO and double digit time in the can, but through sheer dumb luck I ended up doing a bullet
I have never mentioned a name, a crime or a incident in here that has not been covered by the media, law enforcement or both, or is not common knowledge or involved anyone still living, and I never will.

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