Gonna have to disagree with you about G&G Huron. Not touristy at all. Walk down Michigan Ave and ask the tourists where they're eating and next to none will say G&G. Tourists for the most part are not even gonna leave the loop. Best steakhouse in the city in my opinion.

Sergio's in Itasca is the best spot to go. You may have a hard time getting in though lol.

This is old news, but Abruzzo's in Melrose Park..or maybe its just rumors, but I don't see why not as its a cozy place and there are connected guys from that area

The Arm seems to know what he's talking about and doesn't say anything outlandish. I don't know why anyone would doubt his credibility and unless you guys have real inside information.

Chitown, didn't one witness to the Clark beating get killed and the other ( Desantis's son) skip town?

Abruzzo's is fantastic. Excellent suggestion

Yes funk that is true. Michael Cutler was killed during an apparent robbery. The other witnesss was later found I believe in Croatia and returned to the u. s. for the trial. The trial was a circus as u can imagine, the judge had his life threatened and also I believe the prosecuting attorney.

Seems to me the Cutler thing happened under very mysterious circumstance...yet no one ever mentions it when talking of more recent Outfit hits. That's why I think these things still happen, just not as blatant anymore.

I agree 100%

Well, let's see here. Not only does the guy want us to believe there is still a mob family in Rockford - there isn't - he also expects us to believe he is someone who would know about their inner workings and is here to tell us all about it on the internet.

Common sense alone should tell you he's full of it. Just another in a long line of mob forum bullshitters come to waste everyone's time.

Not to mention he has inside info on just about every family from buffalo, providence, Pittsburg, bufalinos, rockford, and chicago

Hey Ivy I really enjoy your posts. I hope I am not one of the BS posters you speak of. I try to document what I post as best I can but some of what I post comes from local knowledge so that is hard to corroborate.

Anyway I was wondering if you knew where I could find a transcript from the Mike Sarno trial? I am trying to do research on the Cicero group of the Outfit.

Forrest Gump of the mob.



I don't recall exactly what you've posted but I've said several times that I actually do believe there are people on these forums who do have some information to share. Info that isn't necessarily public knowledge and comes from where they live, who they know, and what they hear. And as long as it doesn't conflict with what the feds say - who are always the best source of info - I rarely, if ever, question them. But Arm is claiming there is still a family in Rockford and that they're still making new members. Rockford ever being a standalone family independent of the Chicago Outfit is debatable, and even if it was, it hasn't been recognized by the feds as still being viable in years.



Sorry, I don't.

Thanks Ivy, the Sarno transcript is do damn elusive. If I find it I will let everyone know. I have always enjoyed your posts and you do not post BS. Despite personal issues people have with you, I enjoy your candor and I look forward to talking with you in the future. Maybe at some point you might consider proposing me for the Real Deal Forum?

I posted the thread about Rochester, and I see what you mean about some of the posts these people post. It stinks because anyone who actually has local knowledge gets buried under the BS of the trolls.

Son, you're a joke.
You know nothing, and offer nothing but cut and pasted and transposed media bullshit.
No Rockford family?
I am quite literally laughing in your face...and so is anyone else who knows anything.
I have told you no "inner workings" corkey, number one I am fresh out of crayons, paper puppets, and shiny objects, and second thats not what I do.
You said it best yourself...."And as long as it doesn't conflict with what the feds say - who are always the best source of info - I rarely, if ever, question them"
That ALONE proves you are a nobody who knows nothing.
If you would have beleived the FEDs, the 5 NY familes were extinct in 1990...what a mook
Like I said kid, you're a joke...I am the best connected guy y6ou will ever be educated by....STFU and listen, you might learn something

They don't
They talk second and thried hand internet/media/FBI bullshit and try to pr4esent it like it is first hand knowledge or inside information...problem is.....they are wrong 90% of the time

"Inside info?"
A little, but yeah, you hit on pretty much all the areas and people I have been familiar with over the years.
So you can listen to a jagoff who "never questions the feds"...(literally laughing out loud)
Or someone who actually knows WTF he is talking about...your choice