Jcb, did you see my posts on HH. ?Also did Erie Biondillo have relatives in cleveland , Jack & Bobby ?Do you see any of cleveland guys ? I have breakfast w/ them once in awhile & I gather in some way that you were involved in cleveland family ? That is w/ respect & understanding , If you wish to answer . Also , did you see posts on the other guys i mentioned , who were the group after JW , Butchie ,Alliecon & others went away . You remember the big barbut games and gambling @ pineway trails ( which was delmontes family ? How bout the "gunshop on the hill ? You remember digravio ? I see his son peter often, he too has a pizza joint .Not that good either .