Dont know who matt is But I tell Joe is very connected.Hell of a guy & very business savvy.Im not tryin to imply anything but in mid eighties his business grew by leaps & bounds & was shipping their family brand into chicago & NY . Hes very close w/ alot of people. Hes old man Milanos nephew & godson.Paul Lish was also a very close friend.You seem to know alot bout cleveland, i give you that.!Ya know eugene aint doin to good. His youngest boy Matt died ( drugs)40 yrs old & it really took a toll on him .