I wasnt referring to doing anything for him- I was talking about the Guys when they were around buddy.They were two seperate conversations.as for the owner, yes hes a cool guy, but actually referred to his older brother my friend.If you know anything about Cleveland,hes very tight w/ guys in Chicago & NY.Yea Loose still looks like Ron Jeremy.Poor guys got some real issues to deal with.As far as I said before,Im not sayin I was a bigshot or anything of the nature. Not a poser or trouble maker.I will only talk bout what I know & can verify.That is why I deferred to some of the others here who know better than I .Yes theres couple different barbut & rumico games,ravenna & ashtabula- some of Sabatinis friends & Y'town guys there too . Yes it is beverage place & scrapyard too.You corrected my spelling on Reggie but nothin else ?Oh well, gotta agree bout the browns & the comeback though.