All you need is one juror...wonder if they got to one of them?

Probably not...but you never know.

3 15pm so courts out a 4 maybe some verdict. they got to get bail or the shit is suspect.

NS - None - just following a few federal trials

What are the odds of the feds trying this again? Seems like a pretty weak case but look what they did to Gotti Jr. when they had a hard on for him.

If they hang no way they retry or I would be very surprised - at the least they get bail.

Assuming they are a hung jury (Sorry)

Prosecutors trying the racketeering conspiracy case against reputed Philadelphia mob boss Joseph Ligambi heard the five words from jurors Monday they hoped never to hear again:

We are at an impasse.

The panel of nine women and one man told U.S. District Judge Eduardo Robreno that after 21/2 days of deliberations and two votes, they felt they could not come to unanimous verdict on either the case against Ligambi, 74, or his 50-year-old nephew George Borgesi.

Prosecutors have accused both men of overseeing the mob's loansharking and illegal gambling rackets across the region for more than a decade.

"A discussion late morning confirmed these are our final votes," the note read. "There was no unanimity on any one count."

After consulting with the lawyers, Robreno called jurors back into the courtroom, urged them to try again, and sent them back to deliberations.

He hoped to avoid the same type of jury deadlock that resulted in a mistrial for the two men during their first trial last year.

"I think it's way too early," Robreno said in court Monday. "We had 25 days of trial, and three days of deliberations."


Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaki...ss5ccCJ5h7mP.99

Looking good for these gents

MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED!!!!! GEORGE IS COMING HOME!!!

All the stuff you have heard about the wasted money spent over the years would never be more prevalent if there was a 2nd hung jury.Then I would think that without a doubt it's a wasted effort if that were the case.

We found out who your are ..You sent a few people away and ran ro florida

What are you talking about,I don't know any of these guys.Put away who,I'm a regular-person.Where do you come up with these accusations from.I have lived in Florida over 20 years.where do you get this from.You are 100% off base here.

Pay no attention to that poster. He's been banned. He's obviously a troll and not worthy of a reply.

Is the court now finished for today ? If this is another hung jury surely these two have to walk or at the very least make bail.

Surprised they just don't cut these 2 sweet deals 3 or 4 yes +3 yes probation. No one in the FBI gonna get promoted after this train wreak. NY would have gave them plea bargains. Even the judge looks bad.

Yeah I hear you SC I got a feeling it was the same person that you banned last time for making false accusations.The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard,then you feel like you have to defend yourself,and then you say why I am I even doing that its so stupid.It burns me up when you get on here act respectable have good conversations then out of the blue somebody tries to make you look bad.Unbelievable.

That guy seemed very familiar to the last one that got booted on the Merlino Philly thread. the "Caps Lock King"

Hey look who it is...my favorite drooling window licker "Little" Dickie Moltisanti....Whats up Short Bus?

Look "Little" Dickie, i know your classified by Social Security as a disabled special needs retard but you really need some new material.....yours is about as lame as it gets. You sound like a 5 year old down syndrome imbecile with tourettes. So work that single digit IQ of yours and try a little harder.

C'mon ShortBus...you can do it!

And yes mom might of had some masculine features and MAYBE she had a dick at one time but i guarantee you she's all woman now! Those estrogen shots really did the job! I'll be sure to tell mom you send your love and you miss sucking on her cock....when she had one that is.

Hope your having a GREAT New Year "Little" Dickie!

Hugs and Kisses,

Your Pal 4ever.

GC

The judge on this case is a real scumbag, the jury basically said there verdict but he wants them to deliberate more? Why cause they didn't come back with a guilty verdict? I hope they make bail by tomorrow!!! And the DA and judge are demoted.

Where is George A and his article?! Fucking Bumb, if they were Guilty he woulda wrote something at lunch, but since it's gonna be another Mistrial unless the GovtGang muscles a juror, these reporters don't write, they lose all there credibility with me, there one sided jagoffs!!!

GA lost his credibility a while ago...and yes I do believe that the Feds will do ALL they can not to have them freed...their own careers are at stake.

MONDAY, JANUARY 13, 2014

Ligambi Jury At `Impasse,` Deliberations Continue
By George Anastasia
For Bigtrial.net


They've been here before.

The jury in the racketeering conspiracy retrial of mob boss Joe Ligambi and his nephew George Borgesi told a judge today that it was at an 'impasse" and unable to reach a unanimous verdict in the case.

But Judge Eduardo Robreno told the panel of 11 women and man to keep working.

"It was a long trial," Robreno said in a brief comment to the panel after the jurors had been called back into the courtroom around 2 p.m. "Go back and continue working."

The jury did just that, then recessed for the day at 4 p.m. Deliberations are to resume tomorrow at 9:30.

Ligambi, 74, and Borgesi, 50, have been through this before. In their first trial, the jury deliberated for three weeks before returning a split verdict. At one point, Assistant U.S. Attorney Frank Labor said it appeared the group was "wandering in the desert" and asked the judge to provide the jurors with a copy of the indictment.

Robreno denied that request. But in the retrial, both sides agreed prior to the start of the trial that a copy of the indictment would be provided when deliberations began,

This afternoon, Borgesi's lawyer, Christopher Warren, quipped "At least we know they're not wandering in the desert. This time they have a copy of the indictment."

The note sent out by the panel read in part, "We have voted at least two times...and we are at an impasse." The note also said that there was no unanimity on any of the five charges they are considering.

"I think it's very early in the process," Robreno said to the lawyers prior to calling the panel in and responding to the note. Deliberations began late Wednesday afternoon, the judge noted. The jury met for about six hours on Thursday, but did not meet Friday.

It has deliberated about three hours today before sending out the note.

In the first trial, the jury deliberated for three weeks after hearing testimony for three months. That case involved seven defendants and 62 counts. The jury returned not guilty verdicts on 46 counts, guilty verdicts on five and hung on 11 others.

This case involved just two defendants and the five counts on which the jury hung against them.

Ligambi is facing a racketeering conspiracy count, two counts of illegal gambling and one count of witness tampering. Borgesi faces only a racketeering conspiracy charge.

Neither defendant said much when they were called into the courtroom today, although both nodded and smiled at a dozen family members and friends who have been keeping a vigil on the 15th floor since deliberations began.

Borgesi was found not guilty of 13 of the 14 counts he faced in the first trial. Ligambi was acquitted of four of nine counts.

While it's impossible to determine how split the panel is, the fact that there is not unanimity on any count is, at least in the short run, a victory for the defense. Both Warren and Ligambi's lawyer, Edwin Jacobs Jr., launched blistering attacks on the government's case and their key witnesses.

They argued that the prosecution had overcharged what amounted to a minor gambling case, cobbling together unrelated crimes by various individuals to create a racketeering enterprise where one did not exist.

Throughout his closing argument, Jacobs told the jury that the mob no longer exists, calling it "an impotent shell" and described Ligambi as the "titular head" of an organization that FBI had dismantled more than a decade ago.

Labor and Assistant U.S. Attorney John Han, the key prsoecutors in the case, argued that Ligambi and Borgesi used the mob's historic reputation for violence to advance gambling and loansharking schemes from which they both benefitted.

The case against Borgesi is built almost entirely around the testimony of mob informants Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello and Anthony Aponick. The defense urged the jurors seriously consider they could live with themselves if they sent a defendant to jail based on the testimony of two witnesses who credibility and testimony was tainted and self-serving.

George Anastasia can be contacted at George@bigtrial.net.

Read more at http://www.bigtrial.net/2014/01/ligambi-jury-at-impasse-deliberations.html#utE6dQkB738UkyKI.99

It could work in the defense's favor. If they are forced to deliberate even though they can't come to an agreement, the jury would be more likely to acquit than convict in order to end the trial.

Longer this goes, the chances for either mistrial or not guilty on everything increases. The government has lost for a second time.

You're probably right, but what if it is 11-1 to convict? Who knows at this point. Very good chance they get off. Joe will prob retire after this. Die in his bed. Georgie will be locked back up at some point.

If Georgie gets out today, tomorrow he will be driving around South philly starting shit with every person he feels owes him money. But I am almost certain he falls in line and is back at consig. or capo at least. Him and stevie grew up together and are tight. BUT He's a loose cannon and i wouldnt want to take my advice from a maniac like that..Ligambi probably retires if hes smart.

Any ideas on when a verdict should be released ??

their not even in session until 930 dom...later today is my guess...these ppl want to go home

Thanks cheech

It seems near impossible that they would be found guilty at this point....

Hopefully, the government will learn something and stop using these loser ass snitches and rat turncoats that are worse people than the folks they are testifying against.