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Outfit strip club owner plot
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Sam Cecola? Also interesting he specifically mentions Elmwood Park in the recordings the feds got on him. Reminds me a little of when that Motorcycle gang member was running around talking about killing Joey O to take over the Outfit's rackets. Didn't end well for him. Interesting the article quotes "balls to the wall" when referring to him fighting the Outfit...which means there are more discussions on tape that the feds haven't released yet. http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/24617...ld-he-kill.html
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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No, totally agree....I meant plot AGAINST the Outfit strip club owner. Interesting. And Nonos I agree....seems like he may have been a serial killer type, though I do think he had underworld ties as Scorsese mentioned. Or even the guys back in the 70s in NYC who were kidnapping gangsters and holding them for ransom.
Anyone hazard any guesses who the "strong guy" is?
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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I think he meant to imply that he was connected to Elmwood Park, but you could be right. Interesting I took it to mean he was scarier than EP...but now that you mention it I can see this interpretation as well. I'd like to see the rest of the conversation to give it some context.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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New details come out. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-...nthony-quarantaAny thoughts ChiTown? Weird...the writers seem to imply that Mandell was working as muscle for Elmwood Park...yet the guys he threatens seem to have ties to one crew or another themselves.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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The untold part of this story is Mandells ties to the Russian/Polish human trafficing trade, which have fed these strip clubs with dancers for years. He worked with this POS Lituanian who is knownn as as "Alex" who can still be seen holding court at Grand Dukes on N harlem in Summit on any given Saturday night.
Been there and done it I am very much for real, so if you ask, make sure you really want to know.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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The untold part of this story is Mandells ties to the Russian/Polish human trafficing trade, which have fed these strip clubs with dancers for years. He worked with this POS Lituanian who is knownn as as "Alex" who can still be seen holding court at Grand Dukes on N harlem in Summit on any given Saturday night. So what's your take...Mandell acting as muscle for Elmwood or did the writers misinterpret his words?
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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The untold part of this story is Mandells ties to the Russian/Polish human trafficing trade, which have fed these strip clubs with dancers for years. He worked with this POS Lituanian who is knownn as as "Alex" who can still be seen holding court at Grand Dukes on N harlem in Summit on any given Saturday night. So what's your take...Mandell acting as muscle for Elmwood or did the writers misinterpret his words? I think he was acting on behalf of Elmwood park because there has always been ties between the elmwood park crew and the Russians and between the Russians and Mandell. The Russians have never made a secret of the fact that they have wanted to control the adult industry in Chicago, and if a deal could have been brokerd with the elmwood crew, it could be very lucerative.
Been there and done it I am very much for real, so if you ask, make sure you really want to know.
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The untold part of this story is Mandells ties to the Russian/Polish human trafficing trade, which have fed these strip clubs with dancers for years. He worked with this POS Lituanian who is knownn as as "Alex" who can still be seen holding court at Grand Dukes on N harlem in Summit on any given Saturday night. So what's your take...Mandell acting as muscle for Elmwood or did the writers misinterpret his words? I think he was acting on behalf of Elmwood park because there has always been ties between the elmwood park crew and the Russians and between the Russians and Mandell. The Russians have never made a secret of the fact that they have wanted to control the adult industry in Chicago, and if a deal could have been brokerd with the elmwood crew, it could be very lucerative. That's some inside information. The Russians haha. Fuck I heard it was the Columbians!
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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The untold part of this story is Mandells ties to the Russian/Polish human trafficing trade, which have fed these strip clubs with dancers for years. He worked with this POS Lituanian who is knownn as as "Alex" who can still be seen holding court at Grand Dukes on N harlem in Summit on any given Saturday night. So what's your take...Mandell acting as muscle for Elmwood or did the writers misinterpret his words? I think he was acting on behalf of Elmwood park because there has always been ties between the elmwood park crew and the Russians and between the Russians and Mandell. The Russians have never made a secret of the fact that they have wanted to control the adult industry in Chicago, and if a deal could have been brokerd with the elmwood crew, it could be very lucerative. That's some inside information. The Russians haha. Fuck I heard it was the Columbians! Oh hi Chitown..still trying tio BS your way through huh? If you dont know about the Elmwood park/Russian/Adult industry connection in Cook County...go find a knitting site or something, becuse you have no business on a siteb like this talking about Chicago. There is also a Rosemont/Country Club Hills componernet here too, but a fake like you would have no clue, so i'll save it for another thread. Now go get your fucking knitting needles
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Hey Arm I'm gonna start typin' to ya in street lingo since you are such a wiseguy on Chicago Name one current soldier on the street in Elmwood Park. Who runs that crew and who are the hitters if you know so much? You can't go back and read my previous posts either because I haven't talked about too many guys out there...you are on your own kid Ive read the nonsense you post, and it is the nonsense I chuckle at when I hear 25 and 30 year old kids taking bullshit at the Sports page in Prospect heights on a Sunday during football season , becuse they had an unjcle who was half assed connected in 1972. You wanna quiz ME punk? Don't make me laugh Elmwood park in 65% legit in Real estate, and 20% Russian these days, if you knew WTF you were talking about you would know that.(I DARE you to deny that) You want names? I have a policy son and if you have read my stuff you would know it. I don't name names that have not been adjudicated bt either the press of law enforcement, and in order to educate you I would have to break that rule. Do what you dom best, get half assed false info and make it up as you go along. Now...didnt I tell you to get your fucking knitting needles???
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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Arm--Who do you believe are #1 #2 and #3 in the Outfit today? This is a trick question right? In case it's not..let me fill you in...that structure no longer exists DiFronzo The order after that is fuzzy at best...The Spinas, Vena, anyone who claims to know for sure who would post on a site like this is full of shit.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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@thearm
i wanna hear about the rosemont/cchills connections
you ain't gotta name names but just the gist of the situation Underground " Adult clubs" that operate on the fringes of legality. The guy who operates in Rosemont used to operate out of Wheeling,is juiced in from genertions ago and made street tax free arrangements with Elmowood park, Rosemont and Cicero from the get go, so he gets left alone. The Rosemont police hassled him once, but somehow that went away. (Funny how that goes) The guy in CC Hills is a non practicing lawyer who has the Russians hands in one pocket and South side guys hands in the other. He has a brick and mortor location and actually had to take to renting it out when he was not using it to make his juice payments.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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No, totally agree....I meant plot AGAINST the Outfit strip club owner. Interesting. And Nonos I agree....seems like he may have been a serial killer type, though I do think he had underworld ties as Scorsese mentioned. Or even the guys back in the 70s in NYC who were kidnapping gangsters and holding them for ransom.
Anyone hazard any guesses who the "strong guy" is? Yeah especially being a crooked cop, I'm sure he knew everyone. Well here's our answer Jonny....article says Mandell met with the informant and was introduced by other "mobsters" at La Scarola. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-murder-plot-trial-steve-mandell-to-testify-20140211,0,4200694.story Btw...bet Albie Vena is quite happy to have passed on letting Mandell flatten Stavropoulos. Its going to keep him from going to jail for the rest of his life.
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Re: Outfit strip club owner plot
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The Greek & the Polekatz establishment belong to the Chinatown people if I'm not mistaken. That place is a shady & seedy as it gets.
Seems like this would be more of a reason for Vena telling him to cool his jets than anything else....assuming Mandell's version of his conversation with him is the truth.
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