I'm heavily outnumbered, but it's true. Help me out Mark!

Avalon Garden just reopened downtown on Federal St...and guess who's running it...Michael Sabella

All I can say is that this article got a lot right but some important things wrong;
First,,,,double the made guy count. The rumors of the families demise have been highly over stated
Second...Be careful when calling the Canadian and Utica crews "formally subservient", they are still very much Buffalo cities and Buffalo crews. I know this first hand because I did battle in the 80s and early 90s to keep them that way.
Interesting you mention Russ Carcone. Russ had one of the shortest tenures as acting skipper in the history of the LCN, he was way over his head and even he and his Dad(may he rest in peace) knew it.
As for Canada, it's centered Hamilton today is run by a capo and a street boss (they will both remain nameless as their names are not common knowledge)who both report directly to Falzone.
In Syracuse and Rochester it's business as usual. The A-B-C wars are long forgotten and although I still chuckle when I see reports of a "Rochester family", make no mistake, it belongs to Buffalo.
The Arm's Florida and Vegas activity is seldom mentioned, but I will save that for it's own thread.

I've eaten La Nova Pizza a few dozen times and the pizza is "okay." Their wings are fantastic, pizza is too doughy. Most people are fascinated with it because of the Todaro family.

Are you out of your mind? How the fuck would you know any of this? You did battle in the 80s and 90s? And I'm the fuckin emperor of Japan

I would know this becuse I was THERE son....you should listen and you might learn something

You did battle? Battle of the DJ's? Battle Reenactments? Please elaboraate?

If you and Ivy there are not aware of what went on in Upstate NY between the Buffalo and Colombo families as a side result of the A-B-C wars in Rochester,Syracuse and Utica in the 70s and 80s, including the body count (Both Grillos, Marrone,Deblassi,Manassi,Faliciano,Dequeno,etc) and the near misses(Berg, Brindisi, Bretti, Nappi, DeAmico, Cuda, etc) I sugest you do a LOT more listening and research and a lot less talking.

There is absolutely no Buffalo activity in Las Vegas. There is a slight Chicago Outfit crew in Las Vegas, if one could even call it that. There are several guys associated with Patriarcha and the Gambinos in Las Vegas as well.

The last Buffalo activity in Las Vegas was in the late 1990s with Panaro and the Los Angeles Crime Family.

I'm listening to you. Your proclaiming to know all of this information and did "battle" up there in the 80's. Are you claiming to be a part of them?

All I want is for you to elaborate on all of the information your throwing around. You talk like you were on the ground at that time in the midst of things. Were you a Cop? an Associate? Made Guy?

You talk about guys like myself and Ivy using "Google" but where does your information come from my good sir? I can google the ABC wars as you did and regurgitate the same information as you just did.

You want disclosure?
Fair enough,with 3 exceptions, you don't get my name (although with some work you might be able to get it yourself, I will never confirm or deny) you don't get any criminal activity I have done, except what I was convicted of and I do not mention names of people still alive who have not already been publicly outed by the media or law enforcement.
That said, I was, and am a semi retired, Buffalo associate, and was a a Buffalo loyalist in both the A-B-C wars and the subsequent aftermath in upstate NY, in which the Columbos, Gambinos,Scranton/Pittston,Pittsburg, and what was left of Valente's crew tried to take advantage of the chaos and gain real estate and operations that belonged to Buffalo.
I did 14 months for firearms charges because of bad searches and general fuck ups by the B and the NYS OC task force, but I was originally facing RICO prerequisites. I stood up and turned on NO one even though I was facing possible life and was offered the WPP. Upon my release I probably could have been made in less than a year, but I asked to step away and back out, my request was conditionally granted. These days I run my own business here in the midwest, and have a W-2 job as well. I have made friends out here but keep an arms length and am always careful never to misrepresent myself or overstate my position. AS a result I have the respect and trust of some guys in two families out here.
As for my "battle" role, a lot of it I can not and will not disclose for obvious reasons, but suffice to say I waved the flag and went nose to nose with the opposition with the best of them.
The Columbos and Buffalo had good relations over the years, till that scumbag Dominic Bretti and his crew of lowlifes decided to kick the door open uninvited and with no parlay or sit down.
It was taken to the commission and Tony Ducks famously said "I don't care who runs those cow towns" and that was the attitude of both other crews and the FBI, until just when things were winding down and it was pretty much solved, Bretti's crew whacks a WOMAN of all things, over peanuts, $2000 she skimmed in a check cashing scam.
Hellfire rained down on everyone from the FBI, Justice department, the NY state police, 4 city police departments and 4 sheriffs departments.
This is just a sliver of what you wont find on sites like this or in the media, you had to be there to know it.
Some people have asked me why I don't write a book, I just may some day, once everyone who matters is dead, assuming I outlive them...hope this helps

Waow I´m impressed! I wonder if you could help me out a little bit. I´ve got two pictures of two important mobsters from the Rochester area, but I don´t know their names. All I know is that they were pretty important fellows. Do you know who these two guys are:

I would be fascinated to hear any and all things about Rochester.

You mentioned you were a Buffalo loyalist in the Alphabet Wars. I'm not sure I understand this as I thought Rochester was backed by the Bonanno's and had broken free of Buffalo?

I'd also like to hear a first hand account of what Sammy G was really like!

The media accounts of the ABC wars(what they called the A and B wars because they were not even aware of the 3rd faction) was horrific.
While there were blurry lines, the trinciples lined up this way. The Buffalo loyalists who supported the old guard and refused to recognize Rochester as a separate family and fought to maintain cental NY, The Pittsburgh/Bannano supported Valente crew of separatists, and the Columbo and Scranton/Pittston supported crew of Buffalo factions who were willing to let not only Rochester but everything west go to the highest bidder.
Sammy was considerably older than me and I only met him briefly as a young man, but he was by all accounts a piece of work. I would have liked to have known him better and under more pleasent circumstances