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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
[Re: jonnynonos]
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12/18/13 08:37 PM
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I personally would go with the feds most recent number of about 28 made guys on the street. This is from the FBI immediately following Family Secrets: "We have 28 made members of the Chicago Outfit roaming in the Chicagoland area. We have over 100 associates of the Chicago Outfit," Grant said. http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5681103Therefore, if this is accurate, that number would not include the known made men in prison, including those who went away in FS. The Feds also told you that Family Secrets, which didn't even touch the current boss, and the previous 10 Outfit trials beforehand "crushed" the Chicago cosa nostra family. You gonna take their word there too?  The Feds don't know everything...in Chicago they are busier focusing on politicians than following around the few gangsters that remain.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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12/18/13 08:50 PM
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ChiTown makes good points and as I've stated before if you concentrate strictly on the Italians you'll never get the whole scope. Bernstein is good but Detroit is his wheelhouse. As I've watched for years I've never heard the real boss of the South Side mentioned. Interesting void of information in the Southerly direction.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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12/18/13 08:51 PM
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I think Goudie got one thing wrong. The Heights and 26th St. are have been one crew since Johnny Apes. Matassa is EP.
The media often confuses Cicero, Melrose Park and Elmwood Park. Cicero and Melrose Park are one crew. Matassa is a Cicero guy even though he sometimes drives Marco D'Amico around. He likely reports to Solly D. Here is an old photo of Pudge:  Cicero and Melrose Park are not one crew...guys like Marco, Dote and Andriacchi are from Melrose Park
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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12/18/13 08:54 PM
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They never said that.
In fact Mitch Mars came out after FS and said the exact opposite. I remember the quote nearly verbatim, "The Outfit isn't going anywhere and neither are we."
Why would the FBI ever diminish the stature of the Outfit?
That would essentially be telling their budget director in Washington to decrease their budget. That ain't how government works.
Please they use more sensationalist language than anyone in their materials...again, Chicago is different and there are no "active budgets" or agents focused on the mob. They just have bigger fish to fry here...but when something falls right into their lap (like Frank Calabrese Jr.) then they will put on a big dog and pony show and pat themselves on the back.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
[Re: ChiTown]
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12/18/13 08:59 PM
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jonnynonos
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They never said that.
In fact Mitch Mars came out after FS and said the exact opposite. I remember the quote nearly verbatim, "The Outfit isn't going anywhere and neither are we."
Why would the FBI ever diminish the stature of the Outfit?
That would essentially be telling their budget director in Washington to decrease their budget. That ain't how government works.
Please they use more sensationalist language than anyone in their materials...again, Chicago is different and there are no "active budgets" or agents focused on the mob. They just have bigger fish to fry here...but when something falls right into their lap (like Frank Calabrese Jr.) then they will put on a big dog and pony show and pat themselves on the back. I believe that is incorrect. There are FBI agents actively working on the Outfit. It was posted in an article in these forums some time ago. Yes, it was only a handful. Well, of course they pat themselves on the back. They want to appear like they are doing a good job just like nearly everyone.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
[Re: jonnynonos]
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12/18/13 09:32 PM
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Maybe this will help. Next to last paragraph. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/08/12/grant-organized-crime-alive-and-well-in-chicago/They never said that.
In fact Mitch Mars came out after FS and said the exact opposite. I remember the quote nearly verbatim, "The Outfit isn't going anywhere and neither are we."
Why would the FBI ever diminish the stature of the Outfit?
That would essentially be telling their budget director in Washington to decrease their budget. That ain't how government works.
Please they use more sensationalist language than anyone in their materials...again, Chicago is different and there are no "active budgets" or agents focused on the mob. They just have bigger fish to fry here...but when something falls right into their lap (like Frank Calabrese Jr.) then they will put on a big dog and pony show and pat themselves on the back. I believe that is incorrect. There are FBI agents actively working on the Outfit. It was posted in an article in these forums some time ago. Yes, it was only a handful. Well, of course they pat themselves on the back. They want to appear like they are doing a good job just like nearly everyone.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
[Re: TonyBoy117]
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12/18/13 09:38 PM
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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12/19/13 01:46 AM
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The thing is, from that report, that info either came from the CCC or the FBI, and the way it is phrased, it's the CCC.
That is why I was wondering if they really knew what they were talking about or if they are just amateur "mobologists" like most other writers etc.
Jim Wagner was head of the CCC until 2009...and he was an OC FBI squad Supervisor. I'm guessing his connections and experience would rate more than mob watcher status. Btw that article with Grant is pretty crazy when you think about it. Only one full time OC squad in Chicago and only two for NYC. Amazing to see how much of their resources have gone to Terrorism.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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12/19/13 12:17 PM
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The thing is, from that report, that info either came from the CCC or the FBI, and the way it is phrased, it's the CCC.
That is why I was wondering if they really knew what they were talking about or if they are just amateur "mobologists" like most other writers etc.
Jim Wagner was head of the CCC until 2009...and he was an OC FBI squad Supervisor. I'm guessing his connections and experience would rate more than mob watcher status. Btw that article with Grant is pretty crazy when you think about it. Only one full time OC squad in Chicago and only two for NYC. Amazing to see how much of their resources have gone to Terrorism. Yeah... well, even at their worst probably 99 percent of the mob homicides were against other gangsters. Far less of a public threat than Islamic terrorists! I think the biggest threat from the mob these days is corruption. But I suppose that has nearly always been the case.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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12/19/13 12:27 PM
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I wonder if those two squads in NYC are devoted to LCN exclusively or if that includes other OC ethnic groups like Grant says the OC squad in Chicago is set up. The other thread seems to indicate that they are focused on LCN, but who knows.
ChiTown, in your estimation how many made members are there these days?
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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12/19/13 01:34 PM
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I wonder if those two squads in NYC are devoted to LCN exclusively or if that includes other OC ethnic groups like Grant says the OC squad in Chicago is set up. The other thread seems to indicate that they are focused on LCN, but who knows.
ChiTown, in your estimation how many made members are there these days? The two new york squads are devoted to inveistigating lcn. Theres one squad for the Genovese, Colombo, and Bonanno families and the other squad is for the gambino and luchese families.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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12/19/13 02:39 PM
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I wonder if those two squads in NYC are devoted to LCN exclusively or if that includes other OC ethnic groups like Grant says the OC squad in Chicago is set up. The other thread seems to indicate that they are focused on LCN, but who knows.
ChiTown, in your estimation how many made members are there these days? The two new york squads are devoted to inveistigating lcn. Theres one squad for the Genovese, Colombo, and Bonanno families and the other squad is for the gambino and luchese families. Any idea many squads devoted to OC of other ethnic groups like the Russians?
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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12/19/13 03:23 PM
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I wonder if those two squads in NYC are devoted to LCN exclusively or if that includes other OC ethnic groups like Grant says the OC squad in Chicago is set up. The other thread seems to indicate that they are focused on LCN, but who knows.
ChiTown, in your estimation how many made members are there these days? I have no real concept...but I would assume it is a small number and that is a strategic design by them. Most of the ones that are made and major leaders are interrelated to other made members...in fact if someone were to paste a list of made members, I could probably say who was related or married to who. Again a strategic design...though the Calabrese family might make you think otherwise, I think we can all agree it is much harder to testify against your in-laws or uncles.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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12/19/13 05:33 PM
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I wonder if those two squads in NYC are devoted to LCN exclusively or if that includes other OC ethnic groups like Grant says the OC squad in Chicago is set up. The other thread seems to indicate that they are focused on LCN, but who knows.
ChiTown, in your estimation how many made members are there these days? The two new york squads are devoted to inveistigating lcn. Theres one squad for the Genovese, Colombo, and Bonanno families and the other squad is for the gambino and luchese families. Any idea many squads devoted to OC of other ethnic groups like the Russians? i believe there is a unit dedicated to what the feds refer to as Eurasian OC groups which includes russians and albanians among others. i know they used to have a squad solely dedicated to Asian OC groups but im not sure if it wasn't combined with another unit with all the downsizing going on, then they have other units to investigate DTOs like the colombians and mexicans.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
[Re: ChiTown]
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I wonder if those two squads in NYC are devoted to LCN exclusively or if that includes other OC ethnic groups like Grant says the OC squad in Chicago is set up. The other thread seems to indicate that they are focused on LCN, but who knows.
ChiTown, in your estimation how many made members are there these days? I have no real concept...but I would assume it is a small number and that is a strategic design by them. Most of the ones that are made and major leaders are interrelated to other made members...in fact if someone were to paste a list of made members, I could probably say who was related or married to who. Again a strategic design...though the Calabrese family might make you think otherwise, I think we can all agree it is much harder to testify against your in-laws or uncles. 1. Joseph Andriacchi 2. Dominic Basso 3. Robert Bellavia 4. Frank Calabrese 5. Bruno Caruso 6. Frank Caruso 7. Leo Caruso 8. Marco D'Amico 9. John DiFronzo 10. Joseph DiFronzo 11. Peter M. DiFronzo 12. Salvatore DeLaurentis 13. Rudolph Fratto 14. Michael Gurgone 15. James Inendino 16. Joseph Frank LaMantia 17. Joseph Lombardo 18. Rocco Lombardo 19. Michael Magnifichi 20. James Marcello 21. Louis Marino 22. John Matassa 23. Salvatore Muserino 24. Albert Roverio 25. Michael Spano Sr. 26. John Eugene Spizzirri 27. Richard Allen Spizzirri 28. Michael C. Talarico
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