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Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Dwalin2011] #752775
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Lol come on it wasn't like that lol.

Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Dwalin2011] #752776
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lol of course not mad smile


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Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Dwalin2011] #752779
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Lol

Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Giancarlo] #752796
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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
On one of the shows they said it was actually Tony Ducks who ordered Gas and Vic to hit Gotti. And even when they killed DiCicco by accident Ducks was still happy with the results.

I don't know if thats true or not but that was what someone said on one of the shows i watched.


Yes, you are correct.

As per Philip Carlo's biography, Tony Ducks and Christy Tick had a private meeting with the Chin to discuss Gotti. Some others, like Casso, were waiting in the other room to hear what the plans were. They emerged and shared the news that they were dispatching the Genovese Jersey crew to handle the job.

After the Commission trial left Amuso/Casso in charge, they now met directly with the Chin. The Genovese Jersey crew was unable to get to Gotti, and now the Chin delegated the job to Amuso/Casso.


You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Dwalin2011] #812834
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I don´t know but Gaspipe allways reminds me of the Bull and otherwise.

Both were good Earners/Killers and Underboss.

Would they be a good Team?

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Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Dwalin2011] #812871
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It's a good thought question, but I don't think so. As evidenced from Amuso/Casso you can't have two psychopaths leading a pack. You need someone level headed to calm down any tempers. Now they could probably have formed a formidable modern day Murder Incorporated...

Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: LittleMan] #812879
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Yes, you are correct.

As per Philip Carlo's biography, Tony Ducks and Christy Tick had a private meeting with the Chin to discuss Gotti. Some others, like Casso, were waiting in the other room to hear what the plans were. They emerged and shared the news that they were dispatching the Genovese Jersey crew to handle the job.

After the Commission trial left Amuso/Casso in charge, they now met directly with the Chin. The Genovese Jersey crew was unable to get to Gotti, and now the Chin delegated the job to Amuso/Casso.


That's fascinating. In the distant past, when a Boss needed to be taken out, the Commission would give some faction from within his family the sanction to replace him. But in the above scenario, it actually looks like the Genovese and Lucchese mobs wanted to whack Gotti and divie up the Gambino rackets amongst each other.


"For us, rubbin'out a Mustache was just like makin' way for a new building, like we was in the construction business."
Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Dwalin2011] #813218
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aways amazed at why a powerful boss like the chin never got gotti. I'm sure with gigante's resoures somehow, someway,

he could have clipped gotti, maybe after the first attempt he
decided he didn't want a war, let gotti go to prison. but,
maybe i'm wrong but, I sincerely believe that the chin if he really, really, wanted to whack him he could have. just my opinon.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Binnie_Coll] #813219
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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
aways amazed at why a powerful boss like the chin never got gotti. I'm sure with gigante's resoures somehow, someway,

he could have clipped gotti, maybe after the first attempt he
decided he didn't want a war, let gotti go to prison. but,
maybe i'm wrong but, I sincerely believe that the chin if he really, really, wanted to whack him he could have. just my opinon.


He didn't want a huge war. The hit had to be a sneak job.

Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Dwalin2011] #813220
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thanks mulberry. I believe you.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Binnie_Coll] #813232
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aways amazed at why a powerful boss like the chin never got gotti. I'm sure with gigante's resoures somehow, someway,

he could have clipped gotti, maybe after the first attempt he
decided he didn't want a war, let gotti go to prison. but,
maybe i'm wrong but, I sincerely believe that the chin if he really, really, wanted to whack him he could have. just my opinon.


Binnie, it took the 5 families 6 years to catch up to Albert Anastasia to make him answer for the disappearance of Vincenzo Mangano. And Albert wasn't hidden nor his whereabouts unknown. It took that long to pick a new candidate for Boss, gather political support for that new faction, farm out the contract, pick a hit team, get read to strike, and finally take the guy out. 6 years. And Albert committed the same offense as Gotti come to think of it.

I don't think Gigante ever "kissed and made up" with Gotti. That might be what Gotti thought or hoped for, but I think Gigante was old school and they never forget.


"For us, rubbin'out a Mustache was just like makin' way for a new building, like we was in the construction business."
Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Alfa Romeo] #813247
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Originally Posted By: Alfa_Romeo
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aways amazed at why a powerful boss like the chin never got gotti. I'm sure with gigante's resoures somehow, someway,

he could have clipped gotti, maybe after the first attempt he
decided he didn't want a war, let gotti go to prison. but,
maybe i'm wrong but, I sincerely believe that the chin if he really, really, wanted to whack him he could have. just my opinon.


Binnie, it took the 5 families 6 years to catch up to Albert Anastasia to make him answer for the disappearance of Vincenzo Mangano. And Albert wasn't hidden nor his whereabouts unknown. It took that long to pick a new candidate for Boss, gather political support for that new faction, farm out the contract, pick a hit team, get read to strike, and finally take the guy out. 6 years. And Albert committed the same offense as Gotti come to think of it.



I really don´t know where you are getting your fucking stuff from. You need to check yourself before you wreck yourself... lol


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Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Alfa Romeo] #813252
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This is why I make it a rule to stay out of threads with the abbreviation vs. in the title lol.


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Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Dwalin2011] #813253
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Watch Toddo jumping in pretty soon, complaining about my "langwich"... lol


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Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: pizzaboy] #813254
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LOL The VS sort of jinxed it huh?

This seriously has me cracking up. I never really looked at the title of the thread until now. That is some inane WWF sh- right there.


"For us, rubbin'out a Mustache was just like makin' way for a new building, like we was in the construction business."
Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Alfa Romeo] #813256
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Originally Posted By: Alfa_Romeo
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Watch Toddo jumping in pretty soon, complaining about my "langwich"... lol


Ok but I'm sorry Mr Professor but there is a higher standard for you. It's hard to edify people when you are dropping F bombs at the same time.



Yeah, but posters like you need to be nose rubbed occasionally.


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Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Alfa Romeo] #813301
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Originally Posted By: Alfa_Romeo
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Yes, you are correct.

As per Philip Carlo's biography, Tony Ducks and Christy Tick had a private meeting with the Chin to discuss Gotti. Some others, like Casso, were waiting in the other room to hear what the plans were. They emerged and shared the news that they were dispatching the Genovese Jersey crew to handle the job.

After the Commission trial left Amuso/Casso in charge, they now met directly with the Chin. The Genovese Jersey crew was unable to get to Gotti, and now the Chin delegated the job to Amuso/Casso.


That's fascinating. In the distant past, when a Boss needed to be taken out, the Commission would give some faction from within his family the sanction to replace him. But in the above scenario, it actually looks like the Genovese and Lucchese mobs wanted to whack Gotti and divie up the Gambino rackets amongst each other.


Divie up the Gambino rackets? You do realise they had another 250 soldiers apart from Gotti lol

Commission would've made Marino or Failla boss.

Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Dwalin2011] #813302
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caso should have killed that him...shame he tortured the messenger...kid died for following orders.. angelo was a thug ,knew zero and cared zero about cos nostra

Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: Dwalin2011] #813354
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true but what the hell would a unamde kid be thinking going after gaspipe in his prime. I could only imagine he was a walking legend in Brooklyn in 1986, so was gotti, but he must have been high to trie and kill gaspipe. but I think he was only a real powerfull soldier in 1986, wonder what the hell tony ducks and chris tic thought about him getting shot was that before or after the Gambino underboss got blown up? if it happen before probably why the luchese and Genovese made the pact to kill gotti. actually capcie wrote cool article about dan marino and hydells mother and the fuck up family. he should have rode his uncle coattails and probably be alive today+ changed his last name to his mothers maiden named and got his button.

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there must have been a big meeting with bosses when gaspipe got shot? or it would have been a war. which pipe did kill almost everybody involved with his shooting quitley putting the blame elsewere. theres a picture of gotti Sammy vic and gas its says 1988 how akward were them sitdowns

Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: pmac] #813357
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Originally Posted By: pmac
there must have been a big meeting with bosses when gaspipe got shot? or it would have been a war. which pipe did kill almost everybody involved with his shooting quitley putting the blame elsewere. theres a picture of gotti Sammy vic and gas its says 1988 how akward were them sitdowns


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Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: pmac] #919948
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There was no meeting. Once Casso had Jimmy Hydell in his clutch he tortured him into giving up a name. The contract was issued by Fat Ange and carried out by Hydell on orders from Mikey Boy Paradiso. Gaspipe summoned Gotti to the house where he had Hydell bound. Instead Johnny Boy sent Joe Butch Corrao to meet with Casso. Joe Butch denied having knowledge of Gotti sanctioning a hit. Insisting that Ruggerio and Paradiso went rogue.

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Well I realy think COSTELLO loss of power was it .after Frank got grazed .Alberts days were numbered . Funny how when BONNANO leaves for sicily
he gets blown to bits.

Re: Angelo Ruggiero vs Anthony Casso [Re: mulberry] #920150
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Originally Posted By: mulberry
Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
aways amazed at why a powerful boss like the chin never got gotti. I'm sure with gigante's resoures somehow, someway,

he could have clipped gotti, maybe after the first attempt he
decided he didn't want a war, let gotti go to prison. but,
maybe i'm wrong but, I sincerely believe that the chin if he really, really, wanted to whack him he could have. just my opinon.


He didn't want a huge war. The hit had to be a sneak job.




Exactly that!!

People give the Chin far too much credit, yes he had a lot
of balls, figured out the mental act that is widespread now for those on state income, had a lot of money and a tough crew/ family

BUT so did Gotti to some extent and it's not like the Chin was bullet proof

An open war was the last thing he needed...

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