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Re: blood and honour
[Re: streetbossliborio]
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Fantastic book.It contains many story lines and details not even mentioned in other books about the same era.In general,I loathe Rats,but the Crow is quite the character,which adds to the book's overall quality.Strangely enough,there was even a guy in my old neighborhood (West Side of Buffalo)who was running one of the Crow's tried and true scams in the same exact fashion at the same time(phony diamond ring)----made me wonder if they knew each other and was a further addition to the intrigue the book held for me personally !!!
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Re: blood and honour
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11/30/13 11:37 PM
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Wipeout,while containing a few annoying little mistakes---like implying that friends referred to Phil Testa as "Chick",as in short for Chickenman(ROTFLMAO)is also very good.Lots of detail on the Salvie Testa hit and the Rouse extortion---- 2 of the seminal events in the downfall of the despotic Nicky "Shoe Lifts" Scarfo.The "Chick" on that restaurant booth bug transcript was Frank "Chickie" Narducci.Joseph Ciancaglini Sr. was also called "Chickie"(as was my own father,incidentally)by all who knew him.
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Re: blood and honour
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I agree with everyone that it's the definitive Philly Mob book, the way I think the Sixth Family is the definitive book on the Montreal mob. Are there any other books people think are definitive for other mobs? I have read the Sixth Family, but I heard there is an even more complete book, including the more recent events, called Mafia Inc. For some other definitive mob books, I read: 1) "Nothing personal, just business" by Kenneth Dickson about the Licavoli mob in Toledo. 2) "Gangs of St Louis" by Daniel Waugh: the title says it all, but it covers only the period until the end of Prohibition. However, there is also a book by Tim Richards "Crooks Kill, Cops Lie" about the later period. 3) "Crimetown USA" by Allan May about organized crime in Youngstown. There are many books about Boston, don't really know which could be called "definitive". Most are about Bulger, one entirely about Jerry Angiulo, another one all about Barboza etc. By the way, is the book "Rogue Mobster" by Mark Silverman and Scott Deitche any good? I am interested because it seems to be the only book dedicated to the post-Patriarca period of the Providence mafia, but I read Mark Silverman isn't always reliable, for example he claims he is a non-Italian made member. Does anyone know if there are books about the mafia in San Francisco or Los Angeles?
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Re: blood and honour
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12/02/13 08:54 PM
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Dwalin2011, Most books about Los Angeles are written about Mickey Cohen, Benny Siegel, Chicago's operations there as well as Joe Bonanno's attempt to take over Los Angeles rackets allegedly. The two books I recommend you read are The Last Mafioso by Ovid Demaris about Jimmy Fratianno, and Breakshot: A life in the 21st Century American Mafia by Kenny Gallo and Matthew Randazzo. Not much is written about San Francisco, but Animal: The Bloody Rise and Fall of the Mob's Most Feared Assassin by Casey Sherman, which details the life of Joe Barboza, has some history of the Lanza crime family in it. If there is going to be a book on the Lanza crime family, I hope Lee Housekeeper does it. I believe he was the one that found that San Francisco soldier, Salvatore Taranto was an informant before he passed away in 71, who's information led to the Feds knowing Lanza was well liked by nearly all the bosses in the States, Sicily and had many deals going on with Bonanno, Catena, Gambino, Lucchese, Marcello, Patriarca, Civello, Cerrito and Palermo.
On Philadelphia, was Casella acting alone in Testa's hit or was the Genovese family playing Casella like they did with Caponigro?
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Re: blood and honour
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12/03/13 10:32 AM
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There are many books about Boston, don't really know which could be called "definitive". Most are about Bulger, one entirely about Jerry Angiulo, another one all about Barboza etc.
By the way, is the book "Rogue Mobster" by Mark Silverman and Scott Deitche any good? I am interested because it seems to be the only book dedicated to the post-Patriarca period of the Providence mafia, but I read Mark Silverman isn't always reliable, for example he claims he is a non-Italian made member.
Does anyone know if there are books about the mafia in San Francisco or Los Angeles?
Rogue Mobster is a good book but yes Silverman's versions of several events is challenged a lot. He claims the bosses of the New England family inducted him into the mob because they wanted him to relay info to them on his own crew of wannabe gangsters who were at odds with the actual mob. He also makes Paul DeCologero out to be the head of the renegade faction, which is also up for dispute along with many other things he says in this book. Again, he claims he got made, which would make him the only guy with a Jew last name to ever accomplish that and the reason he says they made him is almost an insult to the reader's intelligence if you ask me. I honestly just enjoyed reading it because a main person in the book was a good friend of mine while I was in prison so it was kinda cool him being a big part of the story. Anyway there is a handful of books about LCN in San Francisco and Los Angeles a good one is called Vengeance Is Mine about Jimmy The Weasel Fratianno
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