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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED)
[Re: IvyLeague]
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10/13/11 10:43 AM
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When it comes to the Genovese, we should put "Unkown" rather than "Vacant"...simply 'cos we know how they tricky they are. The official boss position most likely is vacant. After Chin died, the family probably saw no need to install a new one. Same for the other families. Chin is dead. Massino flipped. Amuso and Persico are in prison for life. The Gambinos making Cefalu the new boss was rather surprising when acting bosses and ruling panels seem to be the new way of doing things. Kind of Surprised Gambino didn't get the spot since he was on that 3 man panel and the only one of the three man panel not in prison, but i guess the guy is in real bad shape health wise. When does Marino get out? He's a real powerhouse in that family and probably has the most support among the crews. Doesn't Johnny G get out soon? He's Marino's guy so we'll see what happens when he's on the street again. But maybe Cefalu will prove to be a good choice. You can't get much lower then Pete Gotti. Ivy, you don't think someone has to be running the westside behind the scenes? Those guys are as slick as they come so we'll have to see somewhere down the road. Probably not until we get a high level rat will we know who the top guy or guys are.
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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED)
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Look at Chin's for example - he looks like a mentally retarded guy staring at a truck that's about to run over him. That's just the way he wanted it, though. Isn't it? Danny Marino gets out in August of 2014.
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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED)
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Those are nice charts you made Mukremin. Looks like you put some time into making them.
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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED)
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10/14/11 03:10 AM
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Ivy, do you see any major error on the charts for the 5 families? The upper echelon is 100% correct right? At least so far we know.
Looks good to me. Just a few things... In the Genovese family, I believe Anthony Romanello is in the same crew as Patsy Parello. Barney Bellomo, Ernie Muscarella, and Artie Nigro all come from the same crew. Alan Longo was acting for Allie Malagone. And Sammy Aparo was acting for Ross Gangi. Though that may not matter depending on how you're doing the chart. In the Lucchese family, Martin Taccetta and Ralph Perna are in the same crew. Ralph was last identified as captain. But like I said, the rest looks fine. Good work.
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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED)
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Great charts Mukremin. Stellar work. As always. I find it can be easy to mix up certain pictures if they'd been improperly identified at some point in time. You've done a great job matching them all up as far as I can tell. When it comes to the Genovese, we should put "Unkown" rather than "Vacant"...simply 'cos we know how they tricky they are. The official boss position most likely is vacant. After Chin died, the family probably saw no need to install a new one. Same for the other families. Chin is dead. Massino flipped. Amuso and Persico are in prison for life. The Gambinos making Cefalu the new boss was rather surprising when acting bosses and ruling panels seem to be the new way of doing things. Great point. In a sense, the position could be considered obsolete in NY, since the ruling panel has proven so effective in relation. Of course, Cefalu seems an exception, as Ivy mentioned with every official boss imprisoned. But with the string of names cited for each families admin. over recent years, Occams Razor tells us that the Feds have the right info, and there is no one "mastermind" controlling everything for the Genovese at this point. Although some will contend that Sal Montagna is/was a Machiavellian genius that anticipated and exploited circumstance to navigate his way into becoming the Supreme Ruler of the Bonanno Family and/or Canada...but I digress.
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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED)
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Barney Bellomo, Ernie Muscarella, and Artie Nigro all come from the same crew. Yeah, Ivy. They all came up with the 116th Street crew. They don't operate out of that area anymore, but they're still pretty cohesive. So if Mukremin wants to add "116th Street" crew over certain family members, that'd be great. Of course it's up to him. But great job, Mukremin. That's very tedious work .
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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED)
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10/14/11 01:39 PM
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Fellas, what other known crews who are still around could be added other than the "116th Street Crew". Adding all the persons on the right crew or group can be tough on these charts. I would need to reorganize things. IVY: Martin Taccetta and Ralph Perna are listed in the same crew as captains already. And as for the Genoveses, the only way to put them in the same spot is beneath each other. I will look into that. EDIT: heres the philly chart i had made long ago, its not accurate. But i will use this as a base. http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/PhiladelphiaCosaNostraFamily.jpg
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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED)
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See first page for updated versions, there have been some minor changes. - 2010 changed to 2011 - Passed away members have been removed and other minor changes. (working on New England and Philadelphia families.) Other families: New England Family: http://www.FreeUploadShare.com/DOWNLOAD/e05cb737/New England Patriarca Cosa Nostra Family.jpg
Last edited by Mukremin; 10/15/11 10:28 AM.
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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED)
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Thanks guys for the information regarding the Philly mob, i was wondering if this topic can be made a sticky? PM Geoff or SC .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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