Yes gentlemen, I go along with what dt posted also, which also proves that artistic license could be stretched in the opposite direction. TB, I applaud your dissection of the five family killing. Both scenes prove that behind these scene are actions that defy logic - this is an art form, not a scientific sequence of events like smashing an atom. There are events that "happen", not because someone figured them out ahead of time; they just make for good stories. I was hoping that the GF brain trust might come up a few more, not dispute the illogical logic that I presented. What if....? Michael didn't enlist.