Say what you want about stanfa but if he didnt make the guy from when he took over june 91 to he went to jail march 94 that family wouldnt probaly be there today. I think natale and joey made borgesi and angilinas. So I guess uncle joe made 7 guys from 2000 on. Unless he made some after the meetinbs with nicky skins. The bills are beating the pats holy shit.