a ci stated that so they were part of a convo with joe ruggiero and baby shacks??? aint u the same guy that said joe ruggiero wanted nothing to do with running things but had the respect??? haha thats funny everybody knows hes the biggest wannabe that ever was made if he could be in charge he would shit his pants in 2 fucking seconds. i hope ur professional research dont mean u get paid for it i mean anybody can use there imagination. i knew both these guys goin back almost 40 years so go make up some more shit