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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: ChardeeMcDennis]
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08/24/13 03:24 PM
08/24/13 03:24 PM
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jesus you people are going way overboard here, this thread is decending into racism "blacks do this, blacks do that, blacks are bad". chill the fuck out.
you act like every instance of a black guy being murdered by a white guy gets blown up by the media, it was one case and it only sparked off a huge story because white cops refused to arrest a man who murdered a boy.
there's plenty of instances of a white guy killing black guy that gets little or no media attention so stop focusing on this ONE case as if it represents some massive anti-white agenda.
what's next? someone posting the OJ simpson case crying about how much media attention is given to a black man killing a white woman and how it would NEVER happen if OJ was white and nicole was black? get a fucking grip.
judging by the clear distaste toward black people shown in this thread i'd say most of you probably have prejudices under the surface and if you were speaking to a friend rather than on a forum you'd probably be using very different words than "black" too.
maybe you guys should go and post on the identical thread on the stormfront forum, i'm sure there's one there and i'm sure it's filled with the exact same crap, just with more colourful words.
oh and by the way, i'm half black, and no i have never robbed, raped or killed anybody. weird huh?? "because white cops refused to arrest a man who murdered a boy." You lose all credibility right there. Lilo tried this stunt before. Anyone who tries to make this an argument obviously has no intention in being honest about the Treyvon/Zimmerman case. And, for the record, the problem a lot of us have is how that case was exploited by the liberal media for their own agenda. And, as usual, the low-information black community followed along like lemmings. Nobody is saying there aren't cases where whites attack blacks. But there is no comparison between the two in terms of how often it happens. Black-on-white crime, or black-on-black crime for that matter, happens FAR more often. But it never gets the attention that it should or that the whole Treyvon/Zimmerman case did.
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: dixiemafia]
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08/24/13 03:56 PM
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pizzaboy
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It's absurd that some white liberals are so afraid of engaging in a discussion about black on white crime. Last week (prior top the Oklahoma murder), Phil Mushnick did a nice job of addressing the topic when writing about Autumn Pasquale (a twelve year old white girl lured to her death by a pair of black brothers over a bicycle---a fucking bicycle!! ) http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/why_autumn_murder_wasn_news_7NyU2tQwcsmONPEUVBxGoJ
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: Giancarlo]
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08/24/13 04:23 PM
08/24/13 04:23 PM
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I agree PB. As soon as anyone even brings up it seems they get tagged with that racist label. I was hesitant to even post in this thread because i don't want to get that label put on me. Honestly in life i get along with just about everyone regardless of race or religion.
That little girl you mentioned was from jersey. A real shame what those guys did just for her bike. Not sure if you heard but the one kid took the rap for the other brother. Not sure though what the exact staus is of the charge against the other kid is today. Agree 100 per cent. And I'd have posted about this if it was two white kids killing a black girl as sure as I'm sitting here and typing this. Now I'm liberal on more than a few things, but it's unfair that these stories get so little press in comparison to cases like Zimmerman-Martin. There's a media bias, pure and simple. And before anyone mentions Fox News, I wouldn't watch that inane drivel with a gun to my head.
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: Giancarlo]
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08/24/13 08:29 PM
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I was hesitant to even post in this thread because i don't want to get that label put on me. Bro I hate to break it to you but the ones you are afraid of that would label you as a racist would know matter what. If you don't agree with them (them as in ANYONE not a single race) they will label you no matter what so you might as well just come out and said what you wanted. This is what America is coming to, if you speak what you feel you are too quick to be labeled and berated because you gave your opinion. MERICA!
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: dixiemafia]
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08/24/13 11:33 PM
08/24/13 11:33 PM
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What nobody here has mentioned, and the reason that people were so upset about George Zimmerman, was that he had not been arrested, and there didn't seem to be any indication that it was going to happen. Big difference. And he shouldn't have never been arrested either. There was ZERO evidence of murder or manslaughter. Except for the dead teenager.
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/24/13 11:43 PM
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What nobody here has mentioned, and the reason that people were so upset about George Zimmerman, was that he had not been arrested, and there didn't seem to be any indication that it was going to happen. Big difference. And he shouldn't have never been arrested either. There was ZERO evidence of murder or manslaughter. Except for the dead teenager. Kind of a simple way of looking at it. Under Florida law Zimmerman did have a right to defend himself. We will never know for sure what happened that night, but I think we should make an attempt to stop all of these horrible murders that have been happening. It's just very unfortunate that most of the assailants happen to be black
"Don't ever go against the family again. Ever"- Michael Corleone
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/25/13 01:46 AM
08/25/13 01:46 AM
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This has been labeled as a black on white crime when one of the boys arrested wasn't even black! He was white. Wouldn't that make it a white on white crime?
It was a despicable and cowardly act. They shot an innocent man in the back! You really can't get much lower than that. However, three suspects were quickly arrested, two charged with first degree murder and the third as an accessory. One of those defendants was white.
Someone wanted to know why A. It didn't get media attention when it was "black on white" crime. It did. Not only has it been on the news frequently, it's the focus of Chris Wallace's Sunday news show.
Someone wanted to know why there wasn't the same level of outrage as there was for the Zimmerman case. I pointed out that the perpetrators had been immediately arrested and charged with murder, while there had been no arrest in the Zimmerman case.
Are racially motivated crimes committed by all races? Of course there are.
You just made our point. Kneejerk liberals, like yourself, who love to play up the race card immediately jumped to the conclusion that racism was the reason Zimmerman wasn't arrested. No way it could be that the evidence didn't support reason for an arrest or that the eventual arrest and indictment only came because of political pressure. And the bogus racism angle in the Zimmerman case was the entire reason for the selective outrage by liberals, including those in the media. It's why it got so much publicity and turned into a media frenzy. Because there's not necessarily a race angle to play up, or because a potential race angle wouldn't be the type the liberal media could exploit, is precisely the reason the cases involving the baby in the stroller, the girl on the bike, the woman who had her home invaded and was attacked on camera, the Australian jogger, and the WWII vet didn't get a fraction of the attention the Treyvon case did. To say nothing of countless untold numbers of black-on-black crimes. The cold hard truth is, racism (even the type that exists only in your own minds) is what pisses you libs off. Much, much more than the actual crimes in these cases.
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: IvyLeague]
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08/25/13 08:40 AM
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the same people that were happy George Zimmerman was acquitted are now angry
that's kinda fucked up
but to be on topic they should give these idiots to the Aryans in the joint This is the whole problem with you and others on this forum. You can't see the difference between the Zimmerman case and these recent cases. The Australian ball player, the girl on the bike, and the old veteran were all innocent. Treyvon wasn't. You and others here can keep trying to slap the racist label on the rest of us all you want but it only shows how full of crap you are. see......you're still angry being mad at a dead teenager cannot be healthy
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: bigboy]
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08/25/13 12:05 PM
08/25/13 12:05 PM
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123JoeSchmo
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Hey DT why don't you go masturbate to one of your useless news stations like CNN or MSNBC? They're all equally biased so don't throw that at anyone when you're just as bad with your super liberal garbage.
In my opinion you'd have to be woefully stupid or ignorant to believe the Trayvon Martin shooting WAS racially motivated. The FBI investigated it for 16 months. They found racism was not the cause of the incident nor was it implied. Fact is, right or wrong, when you're walking around at night and you see a black young adult with saggy pants, a hoodie acting funny, you're going to get nervous.
And why? Because the facts don't lie. Black people in this country represent maybe 12 percent of the population, yet they especially the men are responsible for SO MUCH of the crime. Assaults, drugs, murders, etc I've come to believe, that the reason the media doesn't focus on black on white crime or black and black crime as much is that it's what you come to expect. When you're watching your local news and when some guy gets killed, or arrested and they show you the mugshot it's a black guy. Everyone just says 'oh nothing new'.
You can throw the racism card all you want DT and the rest of the super liberal think tank group. But you cannot deny the basic fact, that there is a problem in this country within many of our black communities and nothing is being done about it. When a minority commits an outrageous disproportionate of the crime, something is wrong. And all you bearded clams blaming the white man, George Zimmerman, FOX news or whoever the fuck, are not helping but making it worse.
As for President Obama, I'm a registered independent and rightly so. My opinions vary depending on the issue. But it is my opinion that Obama is a political snake in the grass and is one of the worst Presidents we've ever had. This guy campaigned on bringing people together, all he's done is worsened the divide. The tea party sucks I know, but several moderate Republicans don't even like this guy. Both sides are to blame, but don't treat Obama like a fucking saint because he's not.
The Affordable Care Act is already causing more problems that it's solving, the car industry revival was something that Bush more or less instigated not Obama, he poorly handled Benghazi resulting in the death of a diplomat, we've had the worst recovery in our history no thanks to him AND Congress, and is adding a trillion dollars a year to our national debt.
Then there's the fact that he's a weasel word politician from the Chicago political machine, notorious for corruption, who has fooled millions of intelligent people into believing his garbage.
You liberals only pick an argument when it serves you. You will only believe what serves you and only listen to what serves you. Think outside the damn box for a change. Yeah I ain't perfect, at least I'm not blinded by political loyalties. I'll vote for anyone I think can lead the country Dem or GOP. I voted for Obama the first time don't forget.
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: SC]
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08/25/13 12:58 PM
08/25/13 12:58 PM
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And why? Because the facts don't lie. Black people in this country represent maybe 12 percent of the population, yet they especially the men are responsible for SO MUCH of the crime. Assaults, drugs, murders, etc I've come to believe, that the reason the media doesn't focus on black on white crime or black and black crime as much is that it's what you come to expect. When you're watching your local news and when some guy gets killed, or arrested and they show you the mugshot it's a black guy. Everyone just says 'oh nothing new'. You're right, the facts don't lie: FBI Crime rates Here's a break down of the data: Arrests, by Race, 2011 In 2011, 69.2 percent of all individuals arrested were white, 28.4 percent were black, and 2.4 percent were of other races. Of all juveniles (individuals under the age of 18) arrested in 2011 in the nation, 65.7 percent were white, 32.0 percent were black, and 2.3 percent were of other races. Nearly 70 percent (69.7) of all adults (18 years of age and over) arrested in 2011 were white, 27.9 percent were black, and 2.3 percent were of other races. White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race, accounting for 59.4 percent of those arrests. The percentages of white adults and black adults arrested for murder were similar, with 48.2 percent being white, and 49.4 percent being black. Juveniles who were black accounted for 51.4 percent of juvenile arrests for violent crimes. Juveniles who were white accounted for 62.4 percent of juvenile arrests for property crimes. Of the juveniles arrested for driving under the influence, 91.6 percent were white. Juveniles who were white accounted for 72.9 percent of the persons under 18 who were arrested for arson in 2011. Whodathunkit?
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: bigboy]
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08/25/13 01:20 PM
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so lets see, blacks committed a % of crime out of proportion to their % of the population in ALL of the categories listed by the fbi. furthermore, the particular area being discussed here has been murder, the most serious crime. what did the chart say about that... The percentages of white adults and black adults arrested for murder were similar, with 48.2 percent being white, and 49.4 percent being black.Whodathunkit?
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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08/25/13 01:35 PM
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@XDCX That being said, it must be noted whites make up 72.4 percent of the population, so yeah in some areas their will be more white guys committing crime. However you cannot deny within African American communities their are problems with attitude, violence, and lack of education. That needs to be addressed. I think it has partly to due with the music and entertainment industry, but certainly a small part of it. Kids born out of wedlock and poverty are the biggest. I can certainly agree with that, and I will also concede that, ultimately, each of us is responsible for our actions, regardless of our circumstances, be it race, religion, or socioeconomic status. A young man who goes up without a father figure is more likely to become involved in criminal activity, regardless of their status.
"Growing up my dad was like 'You have a great last name, Galifianakis. Galifianakis...begins with a gal...and ends with a kiss...' I'm like that's great dad, can we get it changed to 'Galifianafuck' please?" -- Zach Galifianakis
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: Giancarlo]
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08/25/13 08:15 PM
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And then after the verdict they wanted the feds to charge him with civil rights charges even though the FBI already looked into the case and said it wasn't a hate crime. Then Obama asked them to look at it again after all the pressure from the press and rest of the usual suspects. And again the feds said no go.
Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong on that. You are exactly right although my assumption is Obama et al never really had a interest in proceeding with a real case or real investigation. They just need to appease the wolf whistle race hustlers that make up the left like Al Sharpton, the NAACP, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: bigboy]
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08/25/13 08:18 PM
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And Don, I applaud the democrats on all those wonderful programs. We will see just how wonderful they really are when the federal government (that must borrow billions every year just to keep pace with spending and that doesn't count unfunded liabilities) finally can no longer raise more money on the bond market and is forced to use inflation and theft to countine running these ponzi schemes.
Even if we assume all those programs are wonderful and great- at some point you run out of other people's money. The welfare constituency will not be happy when the the EBT card doesnt work or value is crushed by inflation. The entitlements the feds run are fiscal impossibilities regardless of your position on whether the programs are good, morally upstanding or positive economically.
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Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: bigboy]
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08/26/13 07:43 AM
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There's a lot of ignorance and hatred on display here but that's not surprising. It is rather darkly humorous to see people mutter about black people's double standards or glorification of crime on an internet board that is dedicated in part to investigating and documenting white people's multigenerational crime organizations but so be it. Hardcore conservatives do tend to be racist. That won't change. It's who they are and what they do. Nonetheless there are some memes that have been put out there that ought to be revealed as fallacious. Black people don't care about black-on-black violenceAs one writer put it, "anyone saying this is either stupid or thinks that you are". To put it more charitably I would point out that very few white conservatives live within the black community or get their talking points outside of the Fox/Breitbart/National Review echo chamber. So all of the activism, protest and marches around intra-racial violence goes down the memory hole. It's okay if a person is ignorant about things going on in a community of which they are not a part. It's not ok if they proceed to make assumptions based on ignorance and vitriol. It's okay to profile black people because they're dangerous.This entire notion that black people are inherently destructive is used to justify discriminatory policing, sentencing, and treatment in the justice system. It is in some respects the original sin of this country. Crime rates are at record lows. Most crimes occur among racial groups, not between them. Knowledge is your friend. The very same people who wax poetic about the evils of affirmative action and the problems with black people calling themselves black and the loss of individual rights suddenly become huge fans of treatment by groups when it comes to black people. These folks would never talk as if there is something wrong with white people who since 1400 or so collectively raised the level of violence almost everywhere they went in the world, committed multiple genocides and started worldwide wars that killed millions. THAT sort of lowbrow analysis would be considered obviously unfair and self-evidently racist..when applied to whites. Chris Lane is the flipside of the Trayvon Martin case.At this time no black bloggers, politicians, media personalities, journalists or celebrities have snidely questioned what Lane was doing in that neighborhood, dug up unflattering dirt from his personal life, checked his immigration status or said that until whites clean up their white-on-white violence problem they have no moral authority to worry about black-on-white violence. No the black and white people who killed Lane were promptly arrested, charged as adults and will likely be convicted. Now if a trial occurs in which a black prosecution team makes tons of "mistakes", the black media mocks the diction, looks and cadence of Lane's character witness white female friend, and a mostly black jury lets the killers walk free, then there will be a similarity. Until then, not so much. So far the system has done what it was supposed to do. Alleged criminals have been arrested. Based on what I've read so far I don't think their guilt is much in question.
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Now this is the Law of the Jungleāas old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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