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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: bigboy]
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08/22/13 07:31 PM
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OK so now there is a murder in Duncan Oklahoma by two black and one white gang members who said they killed an Australian white cracker age 22 here on a baseball scholarship just for the fun of it. They used the word "Woods" as a derogatory term for white people and claimed to have killed 5 "Woods". One made a racist anti- white video. My question is this: Following the Travon Martin shooting, the media, the NAACP Sharpton and others went ballistic. The news media was on it 24 hours a day. Then, the POTUS, Obama comes out and gets involved because an unarmed black man is killed. I would like to know where obamma is now? Where is MSNBC ?? where is Sharpton ? Why isn't this on the news 24 hours a day ?? The unarmed white cracker boy was just minding his own business. Why do we have such a double standard in the USA?? I am getting sick of it First, because the libs in the mainstream media don't care about this as much as the Treyvon case. With the Treyvon case, they can explot it to their agenda. Second, many may not want to acknowledge it but the shock-value just isn't there when it's black perpetrators in crimes. It's so common, so unsurprising, that it's what people have come to expect.
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
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08/22/13 11:50 PM
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First of all, this has gotten media attention. I read about. I saw it covered on the news. I don't live in or near Oklahoma, so that means it has gotten national coverage.
Second of all, the murderers were immediately arrested and charged. The 15 and 16 year old were charged with first degree murder and the 17 year old charged as an accessory. They will be tried as adults and judged by a jury of their peers for this disgusting and despicable act. These stories will be out of the news within a week. Just like the story about the black kid that shot the baby in it's stroller. Just like the story about the black guy invading the home and beating the woman inside (caught on camera). Hardly the circus that surrounded Zimmerman/Treyvon case. What nobody here has mentioned, and the reason that people were so upset about George Zimmerman, was that he had not been arrested, and there didn't seem to be any indication that it was going to happen. Big difference. As we've seen, it's highly debatable whether he should have been arrested. Certainly not charged. And even after he was arrested and charged, libs (like yourself) were mad he was found not guilty.
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: bigboy]
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08/23/13 02:01 AM
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Time.com article on race and the Christopher Lane murder. Don’t Ignore Race in Christopher Lane’s MurderThe association of young black men with violence doesn't come out of thin air By John McWhorter Aug. 22, 2013 Australian Christopher Lane was killed on Monday in Oklahoma by three teens, one of whom has said they were just “bored.” The right is complaining that the media is making nothing of the fact that two of the teens were black whereas Lane was white, as opposed to the massive alarm sounded in cases such as white (or white-ish) George Zimmerman killing black Trayvon Martin. And again the cry was heard that there is more “black-on-black” or “black-on-white” crime than “white-on-black,” and that young black men are in fact more of a problem than people like Zimmerman. The numbers don’t lie: young black men do commit about 50% of the murders in the U.S. We don’t yet know whether the attack on Lane was racially motivated, nor can we know whether the three black boys who attacked a white boy on a Florida school bus recently would not have done the same to a black kid. (Critics took Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to task for not condemning the violence.) But hardly uncommon are cases such as the two black guys who doused a white 13-year-old with gasoline and lit him on fire, saying “You get what you deserve, white boy” (Kansas City, Mo.) or 20 black kids who beat up white Matthew Owens on his porch “for Trayvon” (Mobile, Ala.). So, it’s just fake to pretend that the association of young black men with violence comes out of thin air. Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men. If the kinds of things I just mentioned were regularly done by whites, it’d be trumpeted as justification for being scared to death of them. It’s not that black communities are in complete denial about these statistics — Stop the Violence events are a staple of high-crime areas. But let’s face it: black America isn’t nearly as indignant about black boys killing one another or whites as about the occasional white cop killing one black boy, even though the former wreaks much more havoc in black communities. There is no coordinated nationwide movement equivalent to the one Martin galvanized. There are no thoughtful films “exploring” black-on-black crime the way Fruitvale Station treats the death of Oscar Grant, a young black man who was killed by transit police in Oakland, Calif. And recent example illustrates how many blacks feel about who is murdering whom. Two weeks ago, an NYPD cop killed 14-year-old Shaaliver Douse. Douse was in the process of shooting other people, and had been charged with shooting someone else in May — and yet his aunt compared him to Martin. In her mind, the main sin was the white cop’s. Granted, it seems a lot easier to do something about the Zimmermans than the black thugs. Protest profiling and police departments institute new programs. But black thugs aren’t moved by protests, so it can seem like we’re just stuck with them. But who’s to say what would happen if black America exerted even half of the emotional fervor and brainpower it does over cases like Martin’s to thinking about how to keep black boys from going wrong? Annette John-Hall had some wise words on this last year. What kind of self-image do we have to assume we can only change others, but not ourselves? For the time being, though, it’s time for the media to stop proudly emblazoning the race of white cops who kill black boys while cagily describing black teens as, say, “from the grittier part of town,” as has been the case regarding Lane’s killers. The media needs to be as honest with black people as we need to be with ourselves. No group gets ahead by turning away from its real problems. http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: bigboy]
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08/23/13 05:07 AM
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jesus you people are going way overboard here, this thread is decending into racism "blacks do this, blacks do that, blacks are bad". chill the fuck out.
you act like every instance of a black guy being murdered by a white guy gets blown up by the media, it was one case and it only sparked off a huge story because white cops refused to arrest a man who murdered a boy.
there's plenty of instances of a white guy killing black guy that gets little or no media attention so stop focusing on this ONE case as if it represents some massive anti-white agenda.
what's next? someone posting the OJ simpson case crying about how much media attention is given to a black man killing a white woman and how it would NEVER happen if OJ was white and nicole was black? get a fucking grip.
judging by the clear distaste toward black people shown in this thread i'd say most of you probably have prejudices under the surface and if you were speaking to a friend rather than on a forum you'd probably be using very different words than "black" too.
maybe you guys should go and post on the identical thread on the stormfront forum, i'm sure there's one there and i'm sure it's filled with the exact same crap, just with more colourful words.
oh and by the way, i'm half black, and no i have never robbed, raped or killed anybody. weird huh??
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: bigboy]
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08/23/13 07:27 AM
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McWhorter is full of self-hate, so of course he would appeal to ignorant conservatives. It's how he makes his living. To write that there are no films which thoughtfully examine black-on-black violence shows that he must not have ever heard of A Soldier's Story, Clockers, Adulthood, Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned, Boyz in the Hood, or several others. Or more likely he's just ignoring those films so he can do his literary tapdance...
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
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08/23/13 07:29 AM
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jesus you people are going way overboard here, this thread is decending into racism "blacks do this, blacks do that, blacks are bad". chill the fuck out.
you act like every instance of a black guy being murdered by a white guy gets blown up by the media, it was one case and it only sparked off a huge story because white cops refused to arrest a man who murdered a boy.
there's plenty of instances of a white guy killing black guy that gets little or no media attention so stop focusing on this ONE case as if it represents some massive anti-white agenda.
what's next? someone posting the OJ simpson case crying about how much media attention is given to a black man killing a white woman and how it would NEVER happen if OJ was white and nicole was black? get a fucking grip.
judging by the clear distaste toward black people shown in this thread i'd say most of you probably have prejudices under the surface and if you were speaking to a friend rather than on a forum you'd probably be using very different words than "black" too.
maybe you guys should go and post on the identical thread on the stormfront forum, i'm sure there's one there and i'm sure it's filled with the exact same crap, just with more colourful words.
oh and by the way, i'm half black, and no i have never robbed, raped or killed anybody. weird huh?? Quite well stated.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: IvyLeague]
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08/23/13 09:16 AM
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Great article. Full of inconvenient facts libs want to ignore. I'm surprised something like that would be published in Time. Maybe because the journalist was black. When are you and yours going to get a grip on the truth? No one is ignoring any violence against anyone. BTW I didn't notice any of you righties saying kind things about the black bookkeeper who talked yet another white guy out of shooting up a school. Self examination is something you people out to consider. You are ill informed and you are spreading falsehoods, innuendoes and misinformation. I know your agenda, and it is, to say the lease un American.
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
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08/23/13 10:48 AM
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But DT, it's the gospel according to St. Fox News. TIS Oh, well never mind. If it was on Fox it must be true. Kind of like "It's true. I read it on the internet."
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
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08/23/13 11:23 AM
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jesus you people are going way overboard here, this thread is decending into racism "blacks do this, blacks do that, blacks are bad". chill the fuck out.
you act like every instance of a black guy being murdered by a white guy gets blown up by the media, it was one case and it only sparked off a huge story because white cops refused to arrest a man who murdered a boy.
there's plenty of instances of a white guy killing black guy that gets little or no media attention so stop focusing on this ONE case as if it represents some massive anti-white agenda.
what's next? someone posting the OJ simpson case crying about how much media attention is given to a black man killing a white woman and how it would NEVER happen if OJ was white and nicole was black? get a fucking grip.
judging by the clear distaste toward black people shown in this thread i'd say most of you probably have prejudices under the surface and if you were speaking to a friend rather than on a forum you'd probably be using very different words than "black" too.
maybe you guys should go and post on the identical thread on the stormfront forum, i'm sure there's one there and i'm sure it's filled with the exact same crap, just with more colourful words.
oh and by the way, i'm half black, and no i have never robbed, raped or killed anybody. weird huh?? Typical liberal response from you, SC, TIS, Lilo, and DT. Is that your answer for everything? The racism card. Get the fuck out of here. Bottom line: I don't watch Fox News, I have a lot of black friends who don't murder, steal or commit violence, and I fully support tolerance across the board. But the data doesn't lie. There is a real problem in black communities in this country. How can you ignore the fact that black men commit homicide at a rate 10 times that of whites and Hispanics combined? It's their own damn fault and they have to fix it. No matter of apologizing from the "white man" does anything. And for the record, trayvon Martin was not some damn innocent kid all you people are making out to be. Lets just agree on that right now. Zimmerman shot someone who was banging his head into the concrete and punching his lights out. What would any of you done given the circumstances? It just goes to show the left (and the right too) will use anything and twist it to their own advantage. I'm not racist. So anyone who replies to this post better not throw that at me. Make a decent argument for christs sake
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: bigboy]
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08/23/13 12:33 PM
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some real strong arguments being made, especially the call to name your black friends. i guess since joe didn't do it, he's a racist. the constant deflection is always amusing as well. lets not actually look at the issue being talked about, violence in the black community, lets frame everyone who wants to discuss it as racist. that attitude is one of the contributing factors to the violence, the reluctance to even address it. citing facts is now racist i guess.
we also have the same few who are stuck so tight in their parties politics that its a real surprise they are even able to breath. we have seen numerous silly references to fox news, as if anyone in this debate has even mentioned them. these are the same people who think that discredits someone, yet are all too quick to look to msnbc or any other biased media outlet as some sort of beacon for honesty, simply another example of the blinding effects of partisian poltics. being called a racist on this site carries about the same weight as being labeled a monster by a vegan for eating meat, not much.
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
[Re: SC]
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jesus you people are going way overboard here, this thread is decending into racism "blacks do this, blacks do that, blacks are bad". chill the fuck out. Couldn't have said it better, myself. As opposed to the liberal media, contrary to the criminal statistics that show FAR more black on white violence, picking out anecdotal evidence like the Trayvon case and then determining that "white hispanics killed trayvon, white hispanics do that, white people are bad and racist" despite the fact that modern America is by the far the least racist society in human history.
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Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Oklahoma race murder
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Oh, and this kind of shit, regardless of race, creed, nationality or ideology of the criminal scum like these people are the reason I carry a concealed 45.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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