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dumbest mobster ever #735324
08/18/13 08:13 PM
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1. john jr gotti caught with his list of proposed members.
2. john stanfa made an ex cop and a junkie veasey.

who else would you add to that list?

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735328
08/18/13 08:39 PM
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The late Mike Virtuoso of the Bonnanos also had some sort of formal typed list of all the guys he knew and there standing in OC

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735329
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PETE GOTTI..by far...

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: bronx] #735331
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Originally Posted By: bronx
PETE GOTTI..by far...
Hes a contender for sure

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735332
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pete gotti definitely. why did mike virtuso have a list? what was his standing and background??

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735339
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gene is the smartest guy in that family..including sr.

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735343
08/18/13 09:12 PM
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Anyone who got caught on a wiretap after the Commission Case.

Otherwise I would have to agree with Peter or Junior Gotti when it comes to high ranking mobsters. Their own guys were making jokes about how stupid they were. My favorite is the joke about Junior getting in the back seat of his car and thinking that someone stole his steering wheel.

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735345
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Just a soldier, he owned a butcher shop and deli in Williamsburg BK

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735396
08/19/13 12:53 AM
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I woulden't call Stanfa so much dumb as desperate.


Frank Costello: Fucking rats. It's wearing me thin. Mr. French: Francis, it's a nation of fucking rats.
Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735405
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Butchie Petrocelli collected Harry Aleman's defense fund under Angelo LaPietra's name to the tune of $100,000 at an X-Mas party one year than pocketed it...wasn't heard from much shortly after that...or again

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735406
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STRONG ISLAND
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There all dumb


My name is caemine not carmine.

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735450
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Petrocelli was just crazy & got into drugs. People were legitimately terrified of him. He definitely wasn't dumb in his heydey though, the Wild Bunch were extremely thorough, precise burglars & cargo thieves. And killers, obviously.

I'd go with Rocky Infelice. I can only speak for Chicago though.

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: bronx] #735453
08/19/13 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: bronx
gene is the smartest guy in that family..including sr.


Not if you define smart by years spent outta the can.


MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735456
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Anthony "Tony Nicks" Nicodemo

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Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735459
08/19/13 02:14 PM
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Frank Amato.

When your married to the daughter of Big Paul Castellano it really aint too smart to beat and cheat on her!

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735476
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Carmine Persico. he represented himself!

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735477
08/19/13 03:35 PM
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You don't get to where Infelice got by being dumb, he really gave the rackets in the burbs a jump when he got the juice and when he got sent away people still ate off the plate made. He was dumb for not killing Cerone after he fucked his wife but what can you do.

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Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735504
08/19/13 05:08 PM
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bobby glasses. fucking guy kills 2 people over a spilled drink.


"Let me tell you something. There's no nobility in poverty. I've been a poor man, and I've been a rich man. And I choose rich every fucking time."

-Jordan Belfort
Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735551
08/19/13 07:47 PM
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Alphonse Persico following his dad foot steps life and the can.


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: SgWaue86] #735554
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Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
You don't get to where Infelice got by being dumb, he really gave the rackets in the burbs a jump when he got the juice and when he got sent away people still ate off the plate made. He was dumb for not killing Cerone after he fucked his wife but what can you do.


cerone fucked his wife?? where did you find that or are you a local and its common knowledge?

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735559
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Al Capone. He was set up in the business by Torrio, then let things get too out of hand.

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: jace] #735573
08/19/13 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: jace
Al Capone. He was set up in the business by Torrio, then let things get too out of hand.

Capone was not dumb. Yeah too public but made a lot of money.

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: Dellacroce] #735577
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
bobby glasses. fucking guy kills 2 people over a spilled drink.


+1

And not even on him.


MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735579
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Sonnyblackstein was pretty dumb.....oooops i mean sonny black

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735585
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Its not common knowledge but its been said enough to hold weight, its also been posted here along with other guys wives he slept with.

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735593
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come on guys. capone and infelice the dumbest? they weren't the smartest but def not the dumbest. get real now

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #735640
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
bobby glasses. fucking guy kills 2 people over a spilled drink.


+1

And not even on him.


I think killing them was over the top but i dont think id call him stupid. Still no genius...

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: mulberry] #735714
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Originally Posted By: mulberry
Anyone who got caught on a wiretap after the Commission Case.

Otherwise I would have to agree with Peter or Junior Gotti when it comes to high ranking mobsters. Their own guys were making jokes about how stupid they were. My favorite is the joke about Junior getting in the back seat of his car and thinking that someone stole his steering wheel.


That joke was made about his son-in-law, Carmine Agnello.

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735778
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john gotti for more than two or three reasons

nicky scarfo

sam giancana

carl deluna

joey gallo

Re: dumbest mobster ever [Re: streetbossliborio] #735873
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this may be controversial but angelo bruno.

he had beef coming from everywhere and did not kill em. capinigro and testa should of both got it along with scarfo for not backing him in the testa beef. a boss must keep the troops disciplined. he failed to do so when it was so blatant. if he lacked power and hitters he could of called upon castellano to lay some guys down and show some strong support. he didnt use what he had and paid for it.

dumb move for bruno and philly.

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