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Re: Diffrence Between Neapolitan and Sicilian Mobsters
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Yeah that's what I figured, just like here in the States, families go to war with themselves, not each other.
How does the Sacra Corona Unita see themselves along the 'Big 3' of Italian Organized crime
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Re: Diffrence Between Neapolitan and Sicilian Mobsters
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Instead of mobsters that orginate from neapolitan or sicilian stock is there alot of american mobsters that there people come from the region of veneto. Dellacroce. Steven Crea's parents where from somewhere up north Corozzo's family's from Piedmont. About as mafia related as Hawaii
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Re: Diffrence Between Neapolitan and Sicilian Mobsters
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There's a rivalry between every region in Italy. The thing that I've always hated was when people ask if someone is sicilian or italian. You never see anyone ask if someone is neapolitan or italian. But anyway, there's more of a rivalry between southern italy than northern. But I've never seen that much of a difference between Sicily and other southern regions of Italy. People always say there's a huge difference but I've been to Italy and I've lived in America all my life and I've never seen a difference between most southern italian Americans whether they're neapolitan, calabrese, or sicilian. The reason people separate sicilians with italians is because sicily is it's own island. It's separate from Italy and yes there is a HUGE difference in people, culture, food, attitude between sicilians and the mainland. You haven't spent enough time (or any time) in Sicily to understand it and you won't understand it from simply knowing Italian-Americans or Sicilian-Americans in this country. I am sicilian. And I've never see a HUGE difference between Sicily and other southern italian regions. It's not like it seems like its a whole different culture compared to other southern italian cultures. Sardinia is an island on its own as well, I don't see anyone saying Sardinians and Italians. And people don't understand that not all of Sicily is the same. The towns differ from each other as well. Just like every other italian region.
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Re: Diffrence Between Neapolitan and Sicilian Mobsters
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There's a rivalry between every region in Italy. The thing that I've always hated was when people ask if someone is sicilian or italian. You never see anyone ask if someone is neapolitan or italian. But anyway, there's more of a rivalry between southern italy than northern. But I've never seen that much of a difference between Sicily and other southern regions of Italy. People always say there's a huge difference but I've been to Italy and I've lived in America all my life and I've never seen a difference between most southern italian Americans whether they're neapolitan, calabrese, or sicilian. The reason people separate sicilians with italians is because sicily is it's own island. It's separate from Italy and yes there is a HUGE difference in people, culture, food, attitude between sicilians and the mainland. You haven't spent enough time (or any time) in Sicily to understand it and you won't understand it from simply knowing Italian-Americans or Sicilian-Americans in this country. I am sicilian. And I've never see a HUGE difference between Sicily and other southern italian regions. It's not like it seems like its a whole different culture compared to other southern italian cultures. Sardinia is an island on its own as well, I don't see anyone saying Sardinians and Italians. And people don't understand that not all of Sicily is the same. The towns differ from each other as well. Just like every other italian region. First of all, I'm in Sicily nearly every summer for the last 20 years or more. I know the island like the back of my hand. The towns in Sicily don't differ like you say. This rivalry that you say is between all towns, doesn't exist. The north would look down on the south because, unlike Sicily, they had the better educations, the better schools and that. Not so much anymore, things have changed. You are right though, there isn't such a big culture difference between north and south. What I meant by that is Sicily is all about fishing, the ports and water surrounding it, whereas the north is more mountain, they make cheese and more baking and such. This is what i meant about culture. Sicily is all fish. North, no. If you're in Italy and someone says to you, "dove vieni?" they're asking you where are you from, in which case you'd answer what part of Italy/Sicily you come from. Nobody walks around Italy saying, "I'm sicilian, I'm roman, I'm neapolitan...." And YES, if you run into a person over here that is from Sardinia, they will most definitely say they are Sardinian.
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Re: Diffrence Between Neapolitan and Sicilian Mobsters
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There's a rivalry between every region in Italy. The thing that I've always hated was when people ask if someone is sicilian or italian. You never see anyone ask if someone is neapolitan or italian. But anyway, there's more of a rivalry between southern italy than northern. But I've never seen that much of a difference between Sicily and other southern regions of Italy. People always say there's a huge difference but I've been to Italy and I've lived in America all my life and I've never seen a difference between most southern italian Americans whether they're neapolitan, calabrese, or sicilian. The reason people separate sicilians with italians is because sicily is it's own island. It's separate from Italy and yes there is a HUGE difference in people, culture, food, attitude between sicilians and the mainland. You haven't spent enough time (or any time) in Sicily to understand it and you won't understand it from simply knowing Italian-Americans or Sicilian-Americans in this country. I am sicilian. And I've never see a HUGE difference between Sicily and other southern italian regions. It's not like it seems like its a whole different culture compared to other southern italian cultures. Sardinia is an island on its own as well, I don't see anyone saying Sardinians and Italians. And people don't understand that not all of Sicily is the same. The towns differ from each other as well. Just like every other italian region. First of all, I'm in Sicily nearly every summer for the last 20 years or more. I know the island like the back of my hand. The towns in Sicily don't differ like you say. This rivalry that you say is between all towns, doesn't exist. The north would look down on the south because, unlike Sicily, they had the better educations, the better schools and that. Not so much anymore, things have changed. You are right though, there isn't such a big culture difference between north and south. What I meant by that is Sicily is all about fishing, the ports and water surrounding it, whereas the north is more mountain, they make cheese and more baking and such. This is what i meant about culture. Sicily is all fish. North, no. If you're in Italy and someone says to you, "dove vieni?" they're asking you where are you from, in which case you'd answer what part of Italy/Sicily you come from. Nobody walks around Italy saying, "I'm sicilian, I'm roman, I'm neapolitan...." And YES, if you run into a person over here that is from Sardinia, they will most definitely say they are Sardinian. I wasn't talking about rivalries between the towns today, I was talking about in the past. But yes I agree about the north and south. Fishing is huge in Sicily yes, but I still stand by the fact that Sicilians and other southern Italians are very much the same. Not northern Italians though.
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Re: Diffrence Between Neapolitan and Sicilian Mobsters
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08/18/13 04:01 PM
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Why do you only see people saying italian/sicilian instead of italian/sicilian/Sardinia. Anthony Gaspipe Casso is neapolitan but he looks 100% sicilian. i'm not sure. Exactly how many people have you run into from Sardinia? It doesn't come up very often. My husband is born and raised in sicily, has green eyes. A lot of his family there is fair as well, light eyes, etc. Same with like you said...some northerners looking like they should come from the deep south. My father is born in sicily too, and has light eyes, so do I. I do agree with you though about calabrians, they are close to sicilians, mostly because they are geographically the closest to sicily. They're extremely similar. With regard to people from Napoli, if they are speaking their dialect heavy, I can't understand a word of it. Also between the mafia groups some people love to make it out like they're enemies or rivals for some reason. That's not the case at all.
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Re: Diffrence Between Neapolitan and Sicilian Mobsters
[Re: carmela]
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08/18/13 04:06 PM
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Why do you only see people saying italian/sicilian instead of italian/sicilian/Sardinia. Anthony Gaspipe Casso is neapolitan but he looks 100% sicilian. i'm not sure. Exactly how many people have you run into from Sardinia? It doesn't come up very often. My husband is born and raised in sicily, has green eyes. A lot of his family there is fair as well, light eyes, etc. Same with like you said...some northerners looking like they should come from the deep south. My father is born in sicily too, and has light eyes, so do I. I do agree with you though about calabrians, they are close to sicilians, mostly because they are geographically the closest to sicily. They're extremely similar. With regard to people from Napoli, if they are speaking their dialect heavy, I can't understand a word of it. Also between the mafia groups some people love to make it out like they're enemies or rivals for some reason. That's not the case at all. I agree. I'm pretty sure there are some parts of naples and campania that speak a dialect eerily similar to sicilian but don't quote me on that. I actually know one person who is from Sardinia that's why I brought up the question.
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Re: Diffrence Between Neapolitan and Sicilian Mobsters
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Especially since Sicilians have italian names. For instance, someone can have the last name calogero and be from Sicily while someone else can have that same last name and be from Torino. I'm sure you meant Calogero as a first name, not last. And I'm going to disagree with you on this. First names in Italy and Sicily are just as regional as last names are. You can tell where a person is from many times just by their first name. For instance, Giancarlo is a northern name, not very common at all in sicily. The member here Giancarlo would tell you this, but that's not his real name.
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Re: Diffrence Between Neapolitan and Sicilian Mobsters
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08/18/13 05:45 PM
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Especially since Sicilians have italian names. For instance, someone can have the last name calogero and be from Sicily while someone else can have that same last name and be from Torino. I'm sure you meant Calogero as a first name, not last. And I'm going to disagree with you on this. First names in Italy and Sicily are just as regional as last names are. You can tell where a person is from many times just by their first name. For instance, Giancarlo is a northern name, not very common at all in sicily. The member here Giancarlo would tell you this, but that's not his real name. Idk. There's names like Salvatore that are used in all regions of Italy. There are last names like Russo that can be found in all regions of Italy. And calogero is a first and last name. Just like the name Carlo for instance. That's why I never go by names because someone can have any italian last name and they can be from anywhere in Italy.
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