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Re: "...a bag full of money"
[Re: dontomasso]
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Well, in an old GF2 script, Roth and Ola actually kidnap a courier who had the money handcuffed to him.
In this scene, they simply take the money (Courier says, wait what are you doing?) and Roth calls some of his military personnel to take the courier away, possibly to never be seen from again.
Maybe that's where it came from?
"Now, that plane goes to Miami." "That's right. That's where I want it met."
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Re: "...a bag full of money"
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08/18/13 09:56 AM
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When Fredo "met" Johnny Ola at the party, Fredo looked stricken with terror...he didn't know how to handle the introduction. It was Ola who bluffed through it, and Fredo followed his lead.
I agree. But I disagree with any opinion that Michael suspected Fredo of knowing Ola or Roth. When Fredo arrives at the hotel, it is he who brings up the subject about knowing anyone in Havana. However, it is somewhat strange that Fredo seems to already be familiar with Havana: "It's my kind of town." he tells Michael. Despite his recent arrival, he seems to already be familiar with local drinks. At the nightclub, he suggests some local drinks to Geary et al. And yet he did not know how to order a bananna daquairi.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: "...a bag full of money"
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I always wondered what the point was of Roth and his $2 million suitcase heist. I now suspect that entire point was that if the first suitcase was stolen, Roth knew that Michael would only send the second one with Fredo. He needed Fredo there to get inside information on Michael for his assassination plot. This paid off when Fredo saved Roth's life.
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CHRISTIAN You desecrated a classic film. This is worse than "Godfather III." GIBSON Whoa, whoa, hey, whoa! Let's not say things we can't take back. CHRISTIAN All right, all right, I'm sorry.
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Re: "...a bag full of money"
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08/14/14 01:58 PM
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In his last face-to-face with Michael in Havana, Roth says: "My sixth sense tells me that your brother Fredo brought a bag full of money. Where is it?"
How did Roth know that Fredo brought the money? He might have inferred that Michael would have brought Fredo to Havana for only that purpose. His pals in the Cuban government might have tipped him (although if they knew he had $2 million in that suitcase they would have grabbed it).
Or, Fredo might have told Roth.
Your view? In those days booking flights was a big deal. Flights from Tahoe to Havana could have been easily monitored. Most likely Roth either paid off or tapped the phone of the Corleone's travel agent. All he really needed was someone at Havana airport confirming that Fredo and the suitcase had landed and cleared Batista's customs.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: "...a bag full of money"
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08/19/14 06:45 AM
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When Fredo "met" Johnny Ola at the party, Fredo looked stricken with terror...he didn't know how to handle the introduction. It was Ola who bluffed through it, and Fredo followed his lead.
I agree. But I disagree with any opinion that Michael suspected Fredo of knowing Ola or Roth. When Fredo arrives at the hotel, it is he who brings up the subject about knowing anyone in Havana. However, it is somewhat strange that Fredo seems to already be familiar with Havana: "It's my kind of town." he tells Michael. Despite his recent arrival, he seems to already be familiar with local drinks. At the nightclub, he suggests some local drinks to Geary et al. I took that to mean that Fredo had heard that Havana was his kind of town, like Vegas. A place where he could have a good time. At the point where he makes that statement, we have no reason to suspect that Fredo had ever been to Havana, so he could be saying that based on what he has heard of the city.
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Re: "...a bag full of money"
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When Fredo "met" Johnny Ola at the party, Fredo looked stricken with terror...he didn't know how to handle the introduction. It was Ola who bluffed through it, and Fredo followed his lead.
I agree. But I disagree with any opinion that Michael suspected Fredo of knowing Ola or Roth. When Fredo arrives at the hotel, it is he who brings up the subject about knowing anyone in Havana. However, it is somewhat strange that Fredo seems to already be familiar with Havana: "It's my kind of town." he tells Michael. Despite his recent arrival, he seems to already be familiar with local drinks. At the nightclub, he suggests some local drinks to Geary et al. I took that to mean that Fredo had heard that Havana was his kind of town, like Vegas. A place where he could have a good time. At the point where he makes that statement, we have no reason to suspect that Fredo had ever been to Havana, so he could be saying that based on what he has heard of the city. I think it was pretty clear that Fredo had been to Havana before, and thats why Michael asked him to show the VIP's around. When Fredo said it was "my kind of town," there was some sarcasm in his voice IMHO which foreshadowed his "send Fredo to the airport" rant.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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