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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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08/09/13 10:28 AM
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I would also doubt those two bosses went to Chicago, but would also doubt Mike would make this story up out of the blue and especially tie it to NYC like that. I would think high level Capo's, Salerno and/or one of Chin's sons make more sense.
Mags may embellish, but he has higher credibility than anyone on an anonymous internet forum like this one. Embellishing would be if Fat Tony and Chin actually did show up and Magnafichi said he sat down with them himself or something like that. What he's doing, for whatever reason, is just plain lying. It would be more understandable if he said he was told secondhand that they came to town. But he's saying he actually saw them there with his own two eyes. C'mon. As someone else said, Fat Tony was under indictment. And Chin didn't even like attending Commission meetings in New York, much less going way out to Chicago to discuss something that had little to do with the Outfit. Some on here may find you more credible on the activities of the Chicago Outfit in the 1980s than Michael Magnafichi, but I would assume that number is very small.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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08/09/13 01:41 PM
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Mikey Mags is lying like a mf, and I think he did it out of spite just so those guys look like ass-holes, I argee with Chicago I don't even know why he would publicly associate with either one of them. Cocanute treats him like a jerk-off and Fosco just hops on any dick to ride if they bash Difronzo&Co.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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08/09/13 03:30 PM
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Some on here may find you more credible on the activities of the Chicago Outfit in the 1980s than Michael Magnafichi, but I would assume that number is very small. This isn't about me or my credibility. It's about simple common sense. And the fact that you won't even admit it, but keep dancing around the subject, shows the agenda I've always accused you of having; from the old days on the RD forum until now. You can't really attack a person's credibility without first establishing your own. And for "common sense" to be "common" it must be shared by a majority of people. If you think a majority would believe an anonymous internet poster like yourself over someone the FBI noted was a former solider and son of a former CAPO Michael Magnafichi in regards to the Chicago Outfit in the 1980s, then not sure you can use the term "common sense."
Last edited by ChiTown; 08/09/13 03:36 PM.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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08/09/13 03:54 PM
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So you guys really think a majority of this forum believes two anonymous internet posters over a former solider in the Chicago Outfit when it comes to...the Chicago Outfit lol? Look at the responses so far, Fratto. The claim is so unbelievable that it's shocking Magnafichi would even say it. You know, just like the rest of us, that he's bullshitting. Just admit it, quit being so defensive of the honor of the Outfit, and move on. Just like most disagreements with you, they end with YOU telling ME what I'm REALLY thinking . That's it SC my ex wife is really on this forum stalking me from thread to thread trying to torture me. I should talk to my lawyer.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
[Re: ChiTown]
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08/09/13 03:56 PM
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Just like most disagreements with you, they end with YOU telling ME what I'm REALLY thinking . That's it SC my ex wife is really on this forum stalking me from thread to thread trying to torture me. I should talk to my lawyer. You really do live in your own little world, don't you? I was on this forum long before you. You only came over here after you were banned from the RD forum for much of the same crap you're doing here now. Same Fraudo, different day/board.
Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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08/09/13 04:09 PM
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Just like most disagreements with you, they end with YOU telling ME what I'm REALLY thinking . That's it SC my ex wife is really on this forum stalking me from thread to thread trying to torture me. I should talk to my lawyer. You really do live in your own little world, don't you? I was on this forum long before you. You only came over here after you were banned from the RD forum for much of the same crap you're doing here now. Same Fraudo, different day/board. I would lay off the personal attacks if I were you. You know the rules and shouldn't get this upset over people taking the side of a known longtime Outfit soldier/associate over an anonymous internet forum poster with a photo of Michael Shannon as their moniker .
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
[Re: ChiTown]
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08/09/13 04:20 PM
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ChiTown, Relax a little bit.
1) Mike Mags is not a bad guy but he should not be associating himself with Fosco. 2) Fosco is a Con Man. 3) Mike Mags has been arrested 4 times for shop lifting and has other addiction issues. 4) You have to question people with those kind of issues. 5) Elmwood Park people hate Mike Mags. 6) Mike Mags was shelved a long time ago when Elmwood park retreated. 7) Gigante never went to Chicago. 8) It was 2 OTHER Genovese men who were driven around by Mooch. 9) In Mike Mags Defense,maybe he remembers there were two guys but is wrong about Gigante being one of them because he simply doesn't remember. 10) Stop equating your entire self worth as a person with how big the Outfit is today, because you'll never win that argument. Relax about it.
Last edited by Chicago; 08/09/13 08:23 PM.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
[Re: ChiTown]
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08/09/13 04:55 PM
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Mike Mags was shelved because Elmwood Park retreated and you're right, he did have a money problem with Joey A.
The Chicago visit by two Genovese men happened at the end of '85 before Mooch went to Mayo.
I was told he helped in the arrangements and always did because Auippa loved him and he had blood relations with Genovese Family.
Gigante and Salerno did not come to Chicago. It was two other Genovese made men.
I will not argue with you about it or about who retreated several years ago. I didn't stop associating with people after February 13, 1985.
You also have a very hostile tone about you which is not very polite, like asking me to post pictures of my father on this Blog. My wife and I took that as an insult.
Last edited by Chicago; 08/09/13 04:56 PM.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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08/09/13 05:12 PM
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I NEVER SAID HE HATED THE OUTFIT. I said he hates the DiFronzo's and they hate him. Be accurate if you're going to quote me. Stop calling him a soldier. He is a made guy. In Chicago, Guys that work UNDER made guys in their franchises are referred to as soldiers.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
[Re: ChiTown]
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08/09/13 05:29 PM
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What are talking about? Who said the two Genovese men needed permission from Chicago to retaliate against Gotti? They didn't need permission from Chicago to do anything. They were sent out to Chicago right after the hit on Castellano. WHO KNOWS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED. The point is that the two men were not Gigante and Salerno. That's it. Nothing more and nothing less. They were in and out of Chicago very quickly.
You have misunderstood about Grand Ave. I'm not saying there is nothing there at all. I'm saying there is no Full functioning Crew based out of that area. Albie Vena is a made guy but he is NOT A BOSS like Caruso or Inendino with several made guys under him who have Soldier/associates working for them.
Last edited by Chicago; 08/09/13 05:31 PM.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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08/09/13 05:40 PM
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ChiTown, I'll confirm the address of where he grew up and also in River Forest where I grew up when you post pictures of your family and the address of where you grew up on this Blog.
My wife doesn't post anything. She just reads some of it and is amused by a few of the people on here.
Last edited by Chicago; 08/09/13 08:24 PM.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
[Re: Chicago]
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08/09/13 05:51 PM
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Chi Town, I'll confirm the address of where he grew up and also in River Forest where I grew up when you post pictures of your family and the address of where you grew up on this Blog.
My wife doesn't post anything. She just reads some of it and is amused by a few of the people on here. Go ahead and IM it to me if you don't want to post it publicly. Or perhaps tell me who your father's famous neighbor on Lexington was. Remember, you claimed to talk with the Lombardos and when I asked you who Nucci was (Lombardo's older brother/patriarch and someone Rocco idolized and cared for in Vegas for a short period of time), you refused to answer. So who was your father's neighbor on Lexington?
Last edited by ChiTown; 08/09/13 05:52 PM.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
[Re: ChiTown]
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08/09/13 06:30 PM
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I didn't refuse to answer. I simply did not answer because Nucci (real name Andrew) or any other siblings have nothing to do with the fact that Grand Ave retreated with Elmwood Park years ago. Rocky is a 5th degree Black Belt. His place was in River Grove. So what?
My father was born November 7, 1914. he had a sister named Grace, Carlo Urbinanti's wife. 5th Jack Club on 3340 West Jackson Boulevard sound familiar to you?
1131 North Lathrop, River Forest, old residence.
You need to provide your address, name and who you supposedly know to prove your credibility before you get anything else from me.
Now, name all the made guys in the Grand Avenue Crew. Put up or shut up. If you're correct, and Grand ave is still a small but functioning Crew, I'll be the first one to admit it. I'll specifically check it out. Fair enough? Here, I'll start the list 1) Albie Vena 2) Chris Spina
Who else?? Only made guys, not associates.
Last edited by Chicago; 08/10/13 03:49 AM.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
[Re: Chicago]
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08/09/13 07:16 PM
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Also, You DENIED being ChiTown on Fosco's Blog. However, When elmwoodparker first came on here a few months ago, you welcomed him and identified yourself as being Chitown from ANP and told him not to pay attention to Ivy.
elmwoodparker was the Don on ANP, and you were ChiTown on ANP.
You need to give your address, post pictures of your family, and prove that Grand Ave is a full functioning Crew and that Albie Vena is a Boss with Made men, running Franchises with Soldier/Associates working under them.
Prove it.
Last edited by Chicago; 08/09/13 08:25 PM.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
[Re: SC]
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08/09/13 07:51 PM
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I read his postings. He seemed knowledgable about the old Outfit, but not on the modern Outfit. Also, I know him.
Last edited by Chicago; 08/10/13 03:51 AM.
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