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Re: Paul Vario Biography
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He was a very powerful capo but I've never heard this, perhaps he was "acting UB" for a short while. Paul Vario was also the "owner" of the Kennedy Airport and conducted all truck hijacking operations there with his underling - James Burke. Vario was the Lucchese "owner" of JFK, they ran it together with Gambinos in a sort of partnership. I forget who ran the Gambino end of the action, but I remember reading that John Gotti got a cut of the Lufthansa heist because JFK was ran jointly between the families, makes sense since JFK isn't too far from Ozone Park.
This life of ours, this is a wonderful life. If you can get through life like this, hey, thats great. But it's very, very unpredictable. There are so many ways you can screw it up.-Paul Castellano (he would know)
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Re: Paul Vario Biography
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And if there were a mob crew in the Netherlands, you would certainly be more interested in them than in American mobsters . It's interesting you mention this as I am in fact far more interested in American mobsters than Dutch criminals. Compared with American mafiosi, Dutch criminals are small potatoes and petty thieves. But I understand you're point. I totally agree with that opinion, being european myself. I have always found American OC and the LCN history within it mythical and far more interesting than anything we have had in this part of the world, including the Italian mob organizations. With that said Im not a fanboy, just find it very, very interesting and always has.
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Re: Paul Vario Biography
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And if there were a mob crew in the Netherlands, you would certainly be more interested in them than in American mobsters . It's interesting you mention this as I am in fact far more interested in American mobsters than Dutch criminals. Compared with American mafiosi, Dutch criminals are small potatoes and petty thieves. But I understand you're point. I totally agree with that opinion, being european myself. I have always found American OC and the LCN history within it mythical and far more interesting than anything we have had in this part of the world, including the Italian mob organizations. With that said Im not a fanboy, just find it very, very interesting and always has. Gold, I don´t know how old you are. But do you remember "The Gangster Chronicles" aired over here in the early 1980s? That show sparked my interest in the American Mafia.
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Re: Paul Vario Biography
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This was briefly discussed on another thread here....did Paulie really give up Tommy DeSimone over the Billy Batts murder because he tried to rape Karen Hill?
I read somewhere that Paulie knew that this would have caused a lot of internal problems with his crew. And since Paulie was dating Karen for a while, he might have felt protective over her. It seems that Paulie appeased the Gambinos, while keeping Jimmy and Henry out of harm's way.
I believe this version because it helps explain why Tommy got clipped over Batts, but Jimmy and Henry were given a pass....even though they participated. In the Jimmy Burke biography (Mobsters), I believe that he took over Batts' loansharking business while he was in the can. And after Batts got released from prison, he wanted it back, while Jimmy wanted to keep it.
You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
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Re: Paul Vario Biography
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Yes, Henry was prone to exaggeration. However, I'm curious as to why Tommy was whacked, while Henry and Jimmy were given a pass?
You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
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Re: Paul Vario Biography
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Yes, Henry was prone to exaggeration. However, I'm curious as to why Tommy was whacked, while Henry and Jimmy were given a pass? I've never heard a reason given. But Henry was put on notice about drugs by Paulie, maybe it was just a matter of time. Jimmy was probably going to kill him anyway over the Lufthansa heist like he did everyone else. Jimmy pulled in a ton of money, so maybe Paul was willing to overlook it in his case. Paul died in prison and never said a word, so we can only guess at his motives. Maybe he was just a sentimental bastard about those two.
This life of ours, this is a wonderful life. If you can get through life like this, hey, thats great. But it's very, very unpredictable. There are so many ways you can screw it up.-Paul Castellano (he would know)
"I'm not talking about Italians, I'm talking about criminals."-Joe Valachi
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Re: Paul Vario Biography
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Did Paul have som connections with Murder inc,being that he was from that neighbourhood and had his HQ there before moving to Pine st and Pitkin ave?Accross the street from Henry Hill.In 1955 Does anyone know the exact address where Hill grew up?
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Re: Paul Vario Biography
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He was a very powerful capo but I've never heard this, perhaps he was "acting UB" for a short while. Paul Vario was also the "owner" of the Kennedy Airport and conducted all truck hijacking operations there with his underling - James Burke. Vario was the Lucchese "owner" of JFK, they ran it together with Gambinos in a sort of partnership. I forget who ran the Gambino end of the action, but I remember reading that John Gotti got a cut of the Lufthansa heist because JFK was ran jointly between the families, makes sense since JFK isn't too far from Ozone Park. This was Tommys gift to Carlo when their kids or whoever it was got married wasn't it?
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Re: Paul Vario Biography
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Yes,pine st just of Pitkin ave..East New york,Brooklyn..The green house right accross the street from the cab stand
Thanks! I see it. Really interesting stuff. I can imagine that street being filled with wiseguys and the whole Bronx tale feeling.
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