Do you all think guys on the street are kicking up to their area street bosses or Capos of the crew? Mainly I am talking about 26th Street and Cicero. Or is it pretty much now whatever you earn from shy or book you keep and money no longer flows up?

As for Elmwood Park, namely Johnny DiFronzo and his brothers, do you think any money is illegally obtained from Aruba (i.e. any skim) or is it all legally made at this point?

Chicago (the poster) is the best one to answer your question but he hasn't been around in a while and I'm wondering if he's perhaps bailed on the board. Or maybe just on vacation or taking a break.

Chicago (the poster) is the best one to answer your question but he hasn't been around in a while and I'm wondering if he's perhaps bailed on the board. Or maybe just on vacation or taking a break.

As long as there is some type of hierarchical structure in place, money is going to flow up. What the percentage is varies and is anyone's guess.



My question is, which crew was Posner associated with when he was in Chicago? At this point, there's just rumors about his continued connections to the Outfit and it's usually a DiFronzo connection.



Maybe a "forced" vacation? Like a week or so? Cookcounty may have got the same.

Chicago is not necessarily the best person to answer this particular question. As was pointed out previously, his notions are outdated & his sources unreliable.

Chicago is not necessarily the best person to answer this particular question. As was pointed out previously, his notions are outdated & his sources unreliable.

His knowledge of the Outfit pre-early 80s is pretty staggering. After that, it gets quite murky. Deny it all you want. There are very (very) few quality posters here, so "general consensus" doesn't mean much at all.

There was an expose on Michael Posner after the Natalee Holloway incident in 2006.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news&id=3936339

The article lists Posner as in charge of gambling and prostitution in Lake County. It appears he has a 1987 conviction for gambling, extortion, and the usual. According to the federal BOP website, he was released in 1992.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1987-...l-investigators

The above article mentions that Posner belonged to Ferriola in Cicero.

The first article claims that he has run the casino since 1998. Wikipedia lists Posner as also running two other Aruban casinos. If true, this would be around the time that Elmwood Park retreated.

This is pure speculation, but perhaps in exchange for ceding control of street rackets to the Southside crews, Elmwood picked up the casinos. If I had to guess, I would say 99% of what occurs at the Excelsior is legal. It's a cash cow for DiFronzo and his pals.

If you look at other articles related to Posner, it seems that his relative, likely a brother or nephew since he has no kids, is also running the show.

There was an expose on Michael Posner after the Natalee Holloway incident in 2006.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news&id=3936339

The article lists Posner as in charge of gambling and prostitution in Lake County. It appears he has a 1987 conviction for gambling, extortion, and the usual. According to the federal BOP website, he was released in 1992.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1987-...l-investigators

The above article mentions that Posner belonged to Ferriola in Cicero.

The first article claims that he has run the casino since 1998. Wikipedia lists Posner as also running two other Aruban casinos. If true, this would be around the time that Elmwood Park retreated.

This is pure speculation, but perhaps in exchange for ceding control of street rackets to the Southside crews, Elmwood picked up the casinos. If I had to guess, I would say 99% of what occurs at the Excelsior is legal. It's a cash cow for DiFronzo and his pals.

If you look at other articles related to Posner, it seems that his relative, likely a brother or nephew since he has no kids, is also running the show.

He is clearly one of the few on this site (along with Johnnynonos and Gary Martin) who are realistic about the current state of the Outfit. Unsless i missed it no one has succesfully discredited Chicago yet.

Apparently it's been proven that the user: Chitown used dead members to increase the outfits size (which makes me feel sad for what his existence must entail) . His photos have been proven to have came from Facebook also, so i don't see how Chitown can point out that anyone's "notions are outdated & his sources unreliable" .

It's apparently just one casino. Ivy can explain why.