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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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08/02/13 09:17 PM
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Salerno was under indictment at the time so he wouldnt go, gigante no way either plus Auippa and Cerone themselves were inu the middle of a trial 2 months away from prison as well.if anything represenatives from both families maybe qould of met.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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Sounds like bull. Except to go to court, prison and the psychiatric hospital, it's doubtful that Gigante left Manhattan for the last 20 years of his life. I believe he was even caught on tape once complaining that he regretted the "crazy act" because he couldn't go anywhere or do anything.
Those guys had so much heat on them in the time after the Castellano hit the they would have had to gotten teleported from New York to Chicago to keep the feds from noticing.
This life of ours, this is a wonderful life. If you can get through life like this, hey, thats great. But it's very, very unpredictable. There are so many ways you can screw it up.-Paul Castellano (he would know)
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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Im sure word did get sent to them as to what happened because like all they were curious, but if that did happen the word would of been, we don't know who did it. The Genovese weren't going to tell anyone they knew it was Gotti and that they were going after him. Like with Gigante only leaving Manhattan for doctors visits, prison, the only time Aiuppa and Cerone left their houses were to go to the courthouse for their trial. So much heat was on both sides at the time I don't see Salerno leaving East Harlem much less going with the Chin himself to a different state. and Aiuppa being the type of person he was, especially in the middle of a trial probably could of given two shits about Castellano or who did it.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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I don't see both going to chicago, chin was super careful, I see him sending a messenger, maybe his son
"McGurn likes you, so I make you. So you are now one of us, if you fuck up, we take it out on McGurn. He is your sponsor. Fuck up, it's his ass. You work in his crew, he is your capo."
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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http://articles.philly.com/1997-07-03/news/25545879_1_mob-boss-philadelphia-mob-vincent-chin-giganteIt is conceivable that the chin or someone of his choosing did have contacts with chicago (read above artical about how the chin handled the philly thing) before a decision is made to take out a boss u need permission from the commission to do so, even though the commission don't officially meet "publicly" that we know of, they still communicate with one another and the chin was a stickler for the rules, with that being said I can see how it can be possible that the chin reached out to chicago to let them know its gonna be trouble in the volcano, and reaching out to chicago again about the "gotti hit"
"McGurn likes you, so I make you. So you are now one of us, if you fuck up, we take it out on McGurn. He is your sponsor. Fuck up, it's his ass. You work in his crew, he is your capo."
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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08/04/13 02:01 AM
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Its possible ivy, the chin was sneaking to see his girlfriend before they caught him, u can't see him sneaking to chicago once? No, it was virtually impossible. Chin going back and forth between New York and New Jersey to see his wife and girlfriend is one thing. Going all the way out to Chicago for a high-level meet with Outfit leaders is another. It never happened. You can bet on that. Chicago is a one day drive from NYC. A train is even faster. It is not inconceivable, although the truth of the story is doubtful.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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08/06/13 02:01 PM
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Gigante never went to Chicago in 1985. LOL. Two other men, (Don't know their Names) went to Chicago during Xmas Time in 1985. Obviously, have no idea what was discussed, only know two Genovese man came out here briefly at the end of 1985 after Castellano was killed.
Mooch Eboli helped coordinate it and was their driver in Chicago.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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Gigante never went to Chicago in 1985. LOL. Two other men, (Don't know their Names) went to Chicago during Xmas Time in 1985. Obviously, have no idea what was discussed, only know two Genovese man came out here briefly at the end of 1985 after Castellano was killed.
Mooch Eboli helped coordinate it and was their driver in Chicago. Rumours are that John "Peanuts" Tronolone was a constant messenger between NY and Chicago.Is that true?
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Gigante/Salerno in Chicago after Castellano hit?
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Hi Toodoped, I am not sure. I only know from the Chicago side that Mooch Eboli would help Auippa/Cerone in these situations. Wassup man....I also think that no way top bosses of the Genovese and Chicago would ever met,not under that kind of "heat" in thouse days.But i did a little research and i found an article about other meetings like an argument between the Chi mob and NY,about Jackie Presser,the union president,wich he stated that guys from Chicago came down to NY to tell Salerno that Presser was an FBI informant and even that he might be killed.After that,public F.B.I. files came out that Presser was a informer since 1977.Presser grew up in Cleveland also where Tronolone was comming from.This was happening somewhere around 1984.Here's the article... http://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/27/us/jac...=all&src=pmAlso another article with an wiretap between Salerno and Tronolone(wich he was talking on the behalf of the Chicago outfit)about a problem in Vegas,also somewhere around 1984/85. http://www.newsnet1.com/electricnevada.com/pages96/wynn.htmMy point is that(just guessing)maybe the two guys in the first article were Tronolone,wich the Cleveland mob was well connected with both organizations,meaning the Genoveses and The Outfit,and the other guy maybe was Mooch Eboli?
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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