Actually, I think in this case, the American public won. A victory over shoddy and biased journalism which has been the status quo for generations, starting with Walter Cronkite.

Actually, I think in this case, the American public won. A victory over shoddy and biased journalism which has been the status quo for generations, starting with Walter Cronkite. [/b][/quote]Just because the Hitler Diaries turned out to be fake doesn't mitigate what Hitler did.

Actually, I think in this case, the American public won. A victory over shoddy and biased journalism which has been the status quo for generations, starting with Walter Cronkite. [/b][/quote]Just because the Hitler Diaries turned out to be fake doesn't mitigate what Hitler did. [/b][/quote]There is proof about what Hitler did. Bush opened up his military records to the public and everyone saw it and they ran the articles on them. Another person who received 2 combat V medals (which I might add people in the Navy are not even eligable for) has not opened up his military records.....
One seems ALOT more shady than the other.

Actually, I think in this case, the American public won. A victory over shoddy and biased journalism which has been the status quo for generations, starting with Walter Cronkite. [/b][/quote]Just because the Hitler Diaries turned out to be fake doesn't mitigate what Hitler did. [/b][/quote]Gee comparing Bush to Hitler, I've never heard that one before. :rolleyes:


Simply put the more I hear about the screw up by CBS, the more I think the whole Kerry campaign is involved. Hell according to reports one of his advisors is already involved up to his neck.

I just came across this pic that sums this whole thing up very nicely.

post this on the other board to Iceman

Ask and you shall receive.

So again...if you're that interested in the debates and U.S. election, which is applaudable...where have you been.

Despite your not having watched Fox/CBS, the debate schedule was listed over a week ago...in fact I got it from neither of those networks.

Did you really have no other source than this Board to get the dates?

And re Cat Stevens...nope I've never really cared for his music. But even if I loved it, it wouldn't change my opinion on his current dilema.
Just because you enjoy the work of an artist doesn't mean you have to have anything in common with them politically.

If it were Barbra Streisand they kicked out of the country for the same reasons...I'd say go ahead & get her out. I've got the cd's if I ever want to hear her sing.

Apple

The information in the forged documents are real, but just the fact that they are forged is just what Karl Rove likes. Now he can cry foul and gain sympathy for Bush. He did the same thing in 1986 in Texas. He announced that his office was bugged just before the Texas gubernatorial election(October surprise!) and just like that, his candidate won. Before, both candidates in the election were neck and neck. This is a hell of a lot better for him, because not only will Bush win, but he gets to smear Dan Rather's reputation. He may have failed with the Swift Boat Vets but he's made up that failure with this debacle.

Four more years.

It's what I like, too.

Because in their desperation to have Bush defeated CBS, a major news network...scuttled to air what may be factual information with bogus documents. Therefore completely overshadowing their intent with scandal, and proving in the process the longtime theory of liberal media bias.
Furthermore, it is now under investigation that the Kerry campaign may have had connections w/ CBS with regard to this story. BIG no no.

Good for them for getting tripped up in their own web. Godd for G.W. Bush and as Double-J states...good for the American public to finally be given a good look at what they're dealing with.

Apple

By the way...even before this CBS thing broke out, Kerry had been losing ground. In fact his steady decline in the polls since the Conventions may have been part of what prompted Dan Rather & his ilk at 60 Minutes (and possibly the Kerry campaign itself) to try & dupe the American public.

And another thing...nobody needs to lift a finger to smear Dan Rather's reputation. He's already done a fantastic job of it himself.

Apple

So again...if you're that interested in the debates and U.S. election, which is applaudable...where have you been.

Despite your not having watched Fox/CBS, the debate schedule was listed over a week ago...in fact I got it from neither of those networks.

Did you really have no other source than this Board to get the dates?

If it were Barbra Streisand they kicked out of the country for the same reasons...I'd say go ahead & get her out. I've got the cd's if I ever want to hear her sing.

Apple [/b][/quote]You mean you admit to owning Barbra Streisand CD's?

Apple, as we'd say in this part of the world..wind your neck down. I only asked a civil question. There is a myriad of sources from which I could have got that info, the issue just popped into my head as I was on these boards. Jeez!

Ahhhh...I see.
Funny though that since you're so interested in the U.S. elections you didn't have that info already, considering the "...myriad of sources...". According to your original post, you didn't even know if there were 'plans' for televised debates, let alone a schedule.

People;
People who have the Gangster BB to turn to;
Are the LUCKIEST people...in the world !!

Winding my neck down...

Apple

Funny. Bush wasn't behind the Swift Boat ads, but there is growing links to the Kerry campaign.

This is blowing up in all the liberals faces. You thought you were delivering a death knell with your categorically shoddy and biased reporting, and now you've got to lie in it.

Turns out the American people aren't so dumb, after all?

Ssshhhhhh, Double-J...let's wait until after Nov. 2nd and see!!

Overconfidence can be a deathknell at this point.

However...has anyone heard any of Kerry's recent speeches? Don't know if it's because he's tired or feels like he's already lost...but his vocal tone suggests he's almost sleepwalking through the remainder of this campaign.

Let's see how much fight the Senator's got in him for the first debate next week.

Oh, by the way...about a month ago, Kerry said he'd fight a more 'sensitive' war on terrorism.

Earlier this week in another campaign speech, he decided to claim that as President he'll fight a 'tougher' war on terrorism.

They call him Flipper, Flipper...faster than lightening...!!!

Apple

Apple according to the poles right now Bush has 301 electoral votes and Kerry has 237......that is with Giving Pennsylvania AND New Jersey to Kerry (which he most likely will not win) so throw 36 votes over to bush that makes it 337 to 201 (With New York and California still standing a chance if he can campaign them right)

Kerry's campaign is slowly falling apart, and it doesn't help that the Clinton's are in there DOING THEIR PART TO MESS IT UP.

Just keep your fingers crossed!

You will certainly enjoy my new Tax Cut thread then, Apple.

Are they? Not that that doesn't delight me...but I haven't heard a peep out of either one of them since Bill's surgery a few weeks ago.

There's no telling though, what they might be accomplishing behind the scenes.

Oh, and DonMichael...PA and NJ are possible, but even I am not starry-eyed enough to think Bush has a chance of winning either CA or NY.

However the rest of your post is probably pretty accurate!!

Apple

Well Kerry has Clinton's whole campaign team "working with" his own campaign team. I think every single political strategist has said that Clinton's campaign team is doing everything wrong, Hillary wants in and if Kerry is elected this year she stands no chance.


California and New York each have a gap of only 5%, I think in California if Ahnold can start campaigning a little bit and getting the word out then maybe Bush can sneak by.

I'm doing my own part in New Jersey, I've registered almost 600 new voters who are voting Bush, every vote counts especially in this state now.

Likely not, especially when my neighbors have "Hillary for President" signs on their lawns.

I might have to light a little fire with all those paper signs some night...

Well, certainly can't hurt to be optimistic!!

Also...I'm hearing that Bush is far ahead in several States he lost NARROWLY to Gore in 2000.



Apple

yes he is Apple....


and you heard it here first for when Nov 3rd comes around:

Bush will win 40 states


edit: hopefully there is an extra place here for a person with strong political views

DonMichaelCorleone, I'm gonna hold you to that prediction!!!

Be talkin' to ya on Nov. 3rd!



Apple

I hate to break up this GWB lovefest but....

I've said all along I have no idea how this election will turn out, and surely wouldn't make any kind of bet on it even now. :p However, I've noticed a wide variety of poll results ranging from tie to 8 point lead for Bush (of course with FOX showing the biggest spread).

I predicted earlier and still do, that more people than expected, and that are polled, will be voting in this election, (not to mention just the half dozen or so I know personally that just registered to vote after never voting in elections before) and the possibility of a "surprise" (going either way)IMHO is very likely. In other words....."It ain't over til the fat lady sings" my friends.

TIS

Actually CNN is showing the biggest spread, Gallup is right around what CNN is and Rasmussen has Bush ahead 4%......
Liberals get abc, cbs, nbc.....even IF (which its not) foxnews was a republican channel it would still be 3 to 1

oh sure, people are having a nice time and the other side can't help themselves and have to answer back.

You know it has been so nice because we haven't been bombarded with people trying to fight over these politics the last few days. It has been really nice. It seems like the hotheads have been on vacation.

Actually today Rasmussen poll shows a 1.1 lead for Bush. These polls change daily and seems have been all over the map, which is part of the reason which makes me think this is an unpredictable race.

Btw, the only CCN poll I can pull up is by state. I can get Zogby, and WP, Fox polls but not a general for CNN. What link do you use?

Rasmussen


TIS

oh my mistake about the rasmussen, the 4% was from yesterday. Rasmussen is weird because it is the average over the past 3 days so I tend to like that one just becuase its closer. There should be a link for the cnn poll on the website I just saw it on tv today when they said Bush was up 14% according to their polls, I heard gallup has Bush ahead 11 as ofa few days ago

oh sure, people are having a nice time and the other side can't help themselves and have to answer back.

You know it has been so nice because we haven't been bombarded with people trying to fight over these politics the last few days. It has been really nice. It seems like the hotheads have been on vacation. [/b][/quote]Ha ha FS Maybe we should have two threads...Kerry thread and a Bush thread, and we can have two lovefests going; no one to disagree with or give opposite points of view. Wouldn't that be boring though? Patrick, where are you???? It's too quiet. FS misses you!! :p
Geoff, you didn't ban Patrick from the political threads did you???

TIS

Now Tis, why did you mention that persons name.
Tis, it is almost like you are trying to stir up something. and you are said to be a nice older women. Shame on you!