Originally Posted By: Chicago
1) It is not the norm for any Outfit fathers to want their sons involved, it's the exception.
2) There are a few examples were sons got involved AFTER their father died so he wasn't there to stop them.
3) There are very few made guys left in the Grand Ave Crew. Some young men in their 30's hanging around are not made guys. There may be a few wanna be's who are there to serve Albie if needed for some reason
4) I know Rocky Lombardo, Joey's brother very well.
5) Grand Ave retreated SEVERAL years ago with Elmwood Park.
6) Grand Ave is not a full functioning Street Crew running bookmaking, poker machines or loan sharking. Maybe some white collar being attached to Elmwood Park.
Case closed.


Chicago...can I ask who your CURRENT sources on the Outfit are? No offense, but your info seems rather outdated.